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    i have got an old clark wheel loader that needs a ROPS/FOPS canopy put on it.

    i am trying to find out what regulations tehre are. i have read

    AS 2294.1 Supplement 1—2003
    Earth-moving machinery—Protective
    structures

    but it contradicts itself about 20 times.


    there is not a rops/fops avalable for it as its verry old. ancient even.

    so i need to make one or get one made.

    questions
    1. can i make one myself if it complies with all the specification in the standard.
    2. can i make one myself and get it certafied by an engeneer
    3. can i get one made be an engeneer and fit it.
    4. do i have to get one made subject ti to a distructive test then make another.
    5 do i have to get it made by a specialist machine shop.

    it seams like most things to be a minefield of red tape and web spinning.

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    Carl

    This is where i started then


    on this website i found this

    Approved ROPS may be available for early model tractors, even as far back as 1945. If these are unavailable
    from the manufacturer, a ROPS testing centre may supply an approved frame, or test a home designed frame.
    A list of ROPS testing centres is included in Appendix 2


    so Appendix 2

    Appendix 2 – ROPS testing centres
    Sherwood Pty. Ltd.
    Phone: (02) 4883 6093
    Fax: (02) 4883 6576
    Address: PO Box 6
    Bundanoon, NSW 2578

    Casey Cab and Frame
    Phone/fax: (03) 5995 1595
    Address: 53 Cameron St
    Cranbourne, VIC 3977
    Email: [email protected]
    Catalogue available on Casey Cabs & Frames - Tractor Rollbar Specialist - Australia Cranbourne Victoria

    QMW Industries Pty. Ltd.
    Tel: (07) 3275 2544
    Fax: (07) 3275 2524
    Email: [email protected]
    Address: 53 Success St
    Acacia Ridge, QLD 4110
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    don't wanna touch this one - good luck Carl
    I love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
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    Thats the one Calm. Look on the Clark Michigen web site Carl. Is it that one powered by the cat 2 stroke v8 diesel?

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    nop shees got an old perkins p6 in her

    looks kinda like that but i think its an earlier model

    http://www.tpaktopc.net/images/clark...AN%2055AII.JPG

    cant find clark mich website

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    clark michigan was taken over by volvo in 1985. You can try neils tractor parts and an other mob at tamworth. I ll ask the bloke i get parts for the allis dozer from

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    with all this over taking and name chainging its hard to keep track.

    it would have been made between. 1938 - 56

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisyboy View Post
    with all this over taking and name chainging its hard to keep track.

    it would have been made between. 1938 - 56
    Not sure if it is any help Carl but Neil's of Corowa are a big second-hand machinery dealer that sent Aussie wide.

    They carry a lot of tractor parts as well.

    Neil's Parts


    New, used & rebuilt tractor





    Header & cotton picker parts





    (02) 6033 1600
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    thank guys i will make some calls.

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    Carl, Clarks workshop is at Brecknock Street, Archerfield, opposite my old shed.

    A mate of mine had one of his employees roll a truck with a 5.5 t hyundai excavator on it. The cab was buggered, but he built a new one using RHS of about 75x50. I don't know if it's been certified.

    Why do you need yours certified?
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    If You work on the principle of fully welded and bolted direct to chassis with high tensile bolts along with seat belt you ll be fine

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    I think Carl is turning over a new leaf - no more shoe less milling etc.

    I think he's worried about havin every 'T' crossed and 'I' dotted so public liability and insurance isn't a problem down the track - is that right Carl?
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    na mate not going stupid.

    ill have other blokes driving teh machine and it has to be certafied or im not covered by my insurance and a visit from the OHS people will see my worksite sht down untill it is certfied.

    bludy red tape. if it was jsut me i wouldnt bother with a rops at all.

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    nice to have one to keep the dead branches and other widow makers of your head though , not fond of all this regulation , but surely keeps a lot of people employed ,stopping others from getting on with the job .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsreturn2003 View Post
    nice to have one to keep the dead branches and other widow makers of your head though , not fond of all this regulation , but surely keeps a lot of people employed ,stopping others from getting on with the job .
    Yep there is a lot of bearocrats sitting behind decks right now developing obesity . diabetes and heart conditions working hard day and night to stop us irresponsible blokes squashing ourselves under trees or machinery . Such self sacrifice can never be rewarded and I bet its a real struggle to get them to take their big fat Govt salaries and perks .

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