Thread: I Got The New Sawmill Finished And Working

pics?

Originally Posted by weisyboy

pics?

Look on his website - plenty of machine pics there - but where's the lumber ???

The square block is 5 pieces of 6mm steel plate for the counter weight.
I padded the outside so that if you walk into it you don't hit your head on a raw edge.

A set of weight lifting weights would be a perfect alternative as they are round, and I have seen them for nearly nothing at op shops occasionally.

I'll be finished the quick flip mechanism today and I'll get back to drawing the plans tonight.

My computer has just died and I hope my old laptop has enough grunt for my old cad program. Otherwise I'll just have to use swmbo's PC when its free. Tomorrow I'll try to get a new box.

I expect to have the plans etc complete within 2 weeks though I am trying to get it all done by the end of this week.

I will mill a large diameter log on friday and post pics and a video.

would be usefull if the saw pivoted . bar could run at an angle!can you do this? the ripper i saw years ago and a mate of mine got one built runs on a track fixed to the log . looks good , cheers bob

The saw can flip from horizontal to vertical in a few seconds.
plus the rail was designed so it can also be pivoted for angled cuts though I haven't made any provision for adjusting the angles ... yet.

I have sought to design a practical and easy to use saw that can be built by someone with a bit of limited metal working experience. I have primarily aimed at a bolted construction as almost everyone can drill holes.

As I have also milled timber before I am sufficiently experienced to be able to consider the saw from both milling and construction aspects.

The Wombat mill is somewhat similar to the well regarded Logosol mills as they both have the bar straight across the timber.

In the future I will design a system so the saw can pivot along the line of cut to get maximum bar in the cut. This is a lower priority but I will get it done in due course. (I actually have the concept already designed but I need to refine it a little before I build a prototype of the pivot)

As I update the saw and make improvements I will send updates to all plan purchasers.

i deviate a bit here but just wonder that saw in the pics on your site ( baumr-ag ) (spelling )
i have seen them on ebay are they any good at all

At a fraction of the price of a Stihl or Husky I thought I'd try a baumr-ag out
It seems a reasonable saw at this stage,
They don't seem to get canned on various forums.

I believe one of the chinese saws is a Stihl clone and all the stihl parts fit, I hope this is it.

I'll give it a good workout during this week and find out for sure.

yep thats why i asked , i have heard that one of them is a stihl clone too , but i dont know which one it is .

Hi fellows,

None of those 52cc and 62cc models on eBay are the Stihl clones, unfortunately. One of my machines is a BBT 62cc with a 24" bar and the baumr-ag is in pretty much in the same category. For what you pay for them, they are an excellent value really, at about $200 to $250 depend on the day, they work very well. The only problem with these machines is that, from the way they are manufactured in China and the low QC control existent, some machines come up together properly and with luck with some of the best components (some with no defects, available at the assembly line) and if this is the case, you end-up with a very good machine for the cost of peanuts, if you get a "lemon" then, the machine will not last or perform as well.

The Stihl clones you guys are talking about, are not available on eBay, as this machines even tough made in China (mine as the clutch assembly from Italy!) and some of them coming out the same main factory as the other ones but these machines are more expensive then those preferred for eBay sale.

I got my HJ-CS070 x 102cc (Sthil 070 clone) with a 36" bar last December to use on a GB 44" CSmill frame, the other one is the HJ-CS0380 x 72cc , they come with a 20" bar and are the Sthil MS380 clone. I will order one of these also as soon as I can afford it.

Because of the high cost of freight to have individual machines send from China, the price difference of these 2 machines is about AU$150, with the 72cc (not the 102cc), costing about AU$700 approx. (daily currency changes).

I tried to have my friend chainsaw dealer Laurie (Sawchain) to get some in but he decided not to, as far as I know! I have the direct contact from the manufacturer and I can order individual machines (known as test machines!) any time I want, not that I want to make a habit of it...! The system I used worked well and fast, with item arriving at my front steps 5 days after it was paid for. Now, that is TNT International for you, expensive by reliable.

I am putting some pics of these 2 machines here (they are also elsewhere in the forum) just to tease you up...!

Cheers
RBTCO

Originally Posted by echnidna

At a fraction of the price of a Stihl or Husky I thought I'd try a baumr-ag out.

Fractional price but dont' forget they also only have a fractional (3 month) warranty, a 12 month one is available "for a price" - anyone know how much that is? You need to compare this with an 8 times longer warranty (2 years) of something like the standard Stihl home use warranty.

For trimming trees or cutting a few trailer loads of firewood these saws should repay themselves very quickly but remember milling is the hardest activity you can ask a CS to perform. As robutacion says you can be lucky, or if you are happy enough to be without your saw while it is being replaced then there should be no problem.

I guess it's like buying Ozito but without being able to pop down to your local hardware and replace it.

Oh yeah I forgot to add that I do use a 50 cc Homelite (ie plastic) saw to mill but I restrict this to logs under about 16" in diameter using a 20" blade. If you are going to use a small saw to mill a small log it really pays to use low profile chain otherwise you end up turning most of the log into sawdust. Also it makes sense to break such logs down just to the point where they fit thru a bandsaw rather than continue to use a CS,

i would not trust anything made in china to last on a mill.

stihl is the way to go the older teh better.

Originally Posted by weisyboy

i would not trust anything made in china to last on a mill.

stihl is the way to go the older teh better.

I guess there is "last" and "LLLLLAAAAASSSSSTTTTTTTTTT"

According to the Stihl techos on the other milling website a well maintained current model pro Stihl saw can be expected to run for 2500 hrs at 10000+ rpm before needing a new piston and cylinder - thats 312 full 8 hour days at almost full RPM. That's why these saws are good on mills.

For someone that mills 2 or 3 small logs a year, a chinese saw might last for 5 years. On the same basis it would not be unreasonable for a brand name saw to last for 25+ years. But maybe you only need 5 years of sawing?

Hi everyone,

In the end of the day, is all a mater of "DOLLARS", really...!
The way I see it, if you make a living out of your tools, don't be a "tight bum", buy quality, pay the price, get the advantages, (warranty, service, durability, parts availability, professional repairs, etc, etc, etc.).

In our days, you can buy any tool clone for a fraction of the price, this is good as give the opportunity for non professional people to own, use and enjoy their tools "capabilities". For the average bloke out there, professional tools are not required, nor they could afford them in the first place so, as practical and economical it is, to have this option, is good to know that are still exceptional tool performers, if money is not a constrain.

Cheers
RBTCO

As Worksafe had a stand at the field days I thought it was prudent not to hang one of my big old saws (without chain brakes) on the mill.

So I put a new chinese saw on the mill and it looked good.