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30th March 2009, 09:35 PM #1
simpson capstan winch in austraila?
i want one of these for loadign logs.
its called a simpson capstan winch.
details here
http://www.capstanropewinch.com/WinchFrameset.htm
it would be perfect for loading logs.
anyone have any ideas about gettin one in aus.Last edited by DJ’s Timber; 30th March 2009 at 09:42 PM. Reason: Image removed as it exceeds the forum's sizing of 800px x 600px
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30th March 2009, 09:47 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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check out some of the boat chandlers around brissy
here is a start
http://www.glascraftmarine.com.au/Pr...?Category=SXAM
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30th March 2009, 09:51 PM #3
i have got a fair bit of stuff of glass craft. i didnt think of chandleries.
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30th March 2009, 10:47 PM #4
Mounted on a suitable foundation, a capstan winch is ideal for moving almost anything. Three wraps on the drum is usually sufficient for purchase and release. A gentle pull on the rope allows the drum to do the rest of the work, and release allows the drum to release. Railroad equipment suppliers could also be consulted - they're widely used in switchyards and drydocks.
If you're feeling adventurous, you could even mount a bare wheel on a vehicle on jackstands, to test the theory. Stand off to the side of the rope, and NEVER stand in a loop.
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31st March 2009, 12:21 AM #5
Carl,
there's an arborists suppler in Brisbane (don't ask me where, I went there with an arborist mate one day) which can supply the chainsaw powered winch, possibly the same supplier, possibly another.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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31st March 2009, 07:43 AM #6
i will do a serch
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31st March 2009, 11:09 AM #7
Simpson capstan winch
I think the winch Mick is talking about is called the Lewis winch heres the link http://www.lewiswinch.com/
There is /was a arborist suppliers in the Hawthorne/Balmoral area on the south side of Brisbane near the Balmoral hotel but it was years ago that I dealt with them and I can't remember exactly where they were situated
Peter
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31st March 2009, 02:41 PM #8
either one. i just wanna roll logs.
i have done lotsa serches and cant find arbourist supplies in brisy.
i will give my chainsaw dealer a call and see what he can come up with.
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31st March 2009, 06:08 PM #92-legged animal
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They both look really useful. More useful than my electric winch ,couple of block and tackles , 2 cumalongs and assorted hand boat winches and hand recovery winch .The specs only give how much they will pull [horizontally] . I wonder if anyone knows the formula to convert that to lift
In other words they apparently drag a 4000lb [or 8000lb with a snatch block pulley] dead weight along the ground .But how much will they lift up say a 2 to 1 inclined ramp into the back of a truck ?And how much weight as a straight vertical lift .
I,m sure there is a formula ,couldn't find it on Google though
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31st March 2009, 06:46 PM #10
they are perfect for loading my trailer or a flat bed truck
also for loading big logs into the mill (3 ton +) and movign logs where a tractor cant get.
Mathuranatha.
when loading logs you dont pull them up the back of teh truck as this puts huge stress on teh rear of teh truck and springs. it also limits the size log u can load. you should always roll logs on form teh side. i have been meaning to do a tread on this for a wile but am always in a hurry when i load up.
i can load a 3 ton log easily with a 1500lb electric winch. but i could not pull it on.
i did a ring around to a bunch of places and they all said they are not imported to australia.
wonder if its worth gettin one in the us. anyone else want one we might get a quantity discount.
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31st March 2009, 10:00 PM #11
I don't think a capstan winch is appropriate for significant vertical loads - it's too hard to control the pulling rope for release. The only application I've seen is on a geologist's sampling drop hammer, to lift the tube for the next drop. Even a 2 to 1 ramp would be too steep for me. Check your Occupational Safety rules for guidance.
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31st March 2009, 10:12 PM #122-legged animal
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31st March 2009, 10:40 PM #13Senior Member
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"Pacific Hoists" make a modern 240 volt electric capstan winch, with 2.5t capacity. Check it out www.pacifichoists.com.au.
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31st March 2009, 11:23 PM #14
thing is i dont carry a power station on the back of teh ute.
i really need a petrol powerd winch all the 12 volt ones draw to mutch current and the battery dosent last long enough.
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1st April 2009, 12:14 AM #15.
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Carl, I'm struggling a bit to see how these things would work properly moving logs. I would have thought a two stroke is not a very good motor for a hoist. Even though it uses a gearbox a capstan or hoist needs torque at low RPM which is what electric engines (4 strokes and diesels) can provide. So I went to look at their website and I see it can pull a tonne at 22 ft/min 4"/sec which is slow enough, presumably thats with the CS going flat out.
I saw a very clever setup with a car starter motor geared down and connected to a boat winch used to pull an 18 footer onto a trailer.
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