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    Default Stihl 076 & Logosol Timberjig

    I recently purchased a Stihl 076 at a public auction with zero knowledge of its history.I have spent many hours reading about the saw & Milling Attachments here on this site and the arboristsite forums and see the 076 is used for milling a fair bit.I cant however find anyone who has fitted a Timberjig to the 076. Any thoughts?
    The Timberjig bolts to the saw via the chain securing M10 bolts. My saw has a quickstop chain brake (This was not fitted to the 076 when it was introduced in the 1980s) so my 076 must be one of the last made early 90s. I`m wondering if the chain brake gets in the way of the Timberjig because the brake guard extends a good 3 inches away from the body of the saw .Any thoughts?
    The 076 started 3rd pull using 50 to 1 fuel oil ratio.I know 40 to 1 was recommended when it was sold but who knows.Bit of extra oil might replace the lack of lead in the unleaded fuel. Awesome cross cutting power. Chugging along like an old British MotorBike. Not the high pitch whine like my MS250!
    The push pin type chain oiler is boring. Does anyone know how to disable it and make it full flowing all the time.(Apparently this was an option when the saw was made but I dont have a manual to see)

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    50/1 is actually less than 40/1 , I actually run all my Stihls on 25/1 , as Stihl recomend 25/1 when we use any oil but theres . Cheers MM

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    I run 50:1 with full synthetic in my 076, MS 66 & other 2 strokes the advantages are less smoke, nearly never having a fouled plug & easy starting, a fellow I fall timber for runs all his saws on 25:1 engine oil, whatever he puts in his cat D5 dozer with out the advantages of above, he has a 20 year old husky 3120 which he has had re ringed only once so motors last longer ( thats putting 40 lt a week through the saw for 9 months a year for 5 of those years)
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    oops forgot this bit, the 076 has an automatic oiler with the manual oiler as extra, my automatic oiler is getting worn now & I need to use the manual to keep the oil up to the bar now. My 076 has a chain brake so they sound like the same model
    inter

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    Quote Originally Posted by matildasmate View Post
    50/1 is actually less than 40/1 ,
    Good point. Its 50 parts petrol to one of oil. I have said elsewhere I`m a bit slow,coming from Herefordshire & all. Thank you for the thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InterTD6 View Post
    I run 50:1 with full synthetic in my 076, MS 66 & other 2 strokes the advantages are less smoke, nearly never having a fouled plug & easy starting,
    Thanks for this.Great comfort. I will carry on using the Stihl Oil in the 50:1 fuel I use for all my Stihls.

    a fellow I fall timber for runs all his saws on 25:1 engine oil, whatever he puts in his cat D5 dozer with out the advantages of above, he has a 20 year old husky 3120

    This is amazing isnt it. Its probably quite thin oil for diesel engines he uses not any old oil? Still. Its brave of him. I would not risk it.I would imagine a thick gloopy car oil would not be ignited by the spark plug & just build up on top of the piston and eventually bung it all up & stop it from working.Of course thats in Britain where the weather is predominantly cold & rainy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InterTD6 View Post
    oops forgot this bit, the 076 has an automatic oiler with the manual oiler as extra, my automatic oiler is getting worn now & I need to use the manual to keep the oil up to the bar now. My 076 has a chain brake so they sound like the same model
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    Thanks very much for this info. I did not know this. One forum user never presses his manual button yet uses his 076 for milling using a home made alaskan type mill. Now I understand why. This is why I need an instruction manual!

    I only recently acquired my 076 at a public auction.......an auction renowned for broken & knackered tools & tractors . The 076 started 3rd pull. I logged up a tree in half the time my MS250 would have taken but the weight of this machine is too much.I have to transport it in a wheel barrow. I think a man has to be super strong to use this for tree felling! Its beyond me.I thought I was strong until I got this beast!
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    If you want to know how good the engine is, just lift the saw by the starter cord keeping the decompresson button out ( not decompressed ) the engine should not turn over within 10 + seconds.
    If you think the 076 is heavy try the 090 they had to be carried on the shoulder, something I cant do with the 076 because they leak fuel all over you
    regards inter

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrislemiller View Post
    Thanks very much for this info. I did not know this. One forum user never presses his manual button yet uses his 076 for milling using a home made alaskan type mill. Now I understand why. This is why I need an instruction manual!

    I only recently acquired my 076 at a public auction.......an auction renowned for broken & knackered tools & tractors . The 076 started 3rd pull. I logged up a tree in half the time my MS250 would have taken but the weight of this machine is too much.I have to transport it in a wheel barrow. I think a man has to be super strong to use this for tree felling! Its beyond me.I thought I was strong until I got this beast!
    Chris, during the early 1960's my father used to lug 2 chainsaws about the size and weight of an 076 around the Aussie bush. The blades he used were 42", long, plus fuel and chain oil plus a box full of axes and wedges. He was one strong dude!

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    there is an adjustment for the auto oiler RH side just in front of the top of the muffler. Black plastic lever "-" & "+" on the orange casing above the lever push it all the way to "+"
    regards inter

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    Default 076 Automatic oiler

    Very funny and/or interesting reply posts, thank you. Been thinking maybe oiler pump tube blocked with old oil & debris.Thinking of putting some petrol in reservoir & running saw to clean it out.Have done this with 2 other Stihls without them catching fire then followed petrol cleaning with diesel fuel.Cant say either were huge success.I literally run them for 5 seconds with petrol in.Fear kicks in.I mean the chain gets hot whizzing around the blade. Could it ignite the petrol?I run them a bit longer with diesel in the reservoir.What they need is a full minute to dissolve any crud.Of course if I had the money I would just get a service agent to replace all the pumps but the main agent here charges £40 an hour labour (94.80 Australian dollars at todays rate-is this a lot by your standards?)

    I`ve ordered a Logosol Timberjig with the extra large M10 bolts. £128 by post.Should get it next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Chris, during the early 1960's my father used to lug 2 chainsaws about the size and weight of an 076 around the Aussie bush. The blades he used were 42", long, plus fuel and chain oil plus a box full of axes and wedges. He was one strong dude!
    Hi BobL,
    I have to comment on your comment, otherwise I go mad, I'm bloody jealous of you dad and of others like him, they don't make them like that, any more. Actually, they haven't been making them like that, for a long time, at least for 50 years...! believe me, I know!

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by robutacion View Post
    Hi BobL,
    I have to comment on your comment, otherwise I go mad, I'm bloody jealous of you dad and of others like him, they don't make them like that, any more. Actually, they haven't been making them like that, for a long time, at least for 50 years...! believe me, I know!

    Cheers
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    Cheers RBTCO, As a kid I used to think my dad was just average. He was 5' 8" about 80kg, and looked like he wouldn't hurt a fly.

    I remember the chainsaws being very heavy and could just lift one off the ground when I was about 10 years old but there was no way I was walking through the bush with it. He stopped milling when I was 13 after a massive log truck accident which left him ruined physically. I then forgot about how heavy his chainsaws were until I got my 076 last year and put a 42" bar on it! Suddenly there was new respect - too bad he wasn't alive for me to say this to him.

    He was also one of these guys who would fall big (10'+ diameter) karri's with an axe by cutting small horizontal grooves into the sides of trees and jamming boards in the groove and standing on the board and making the next groove until he was 3 or 4 boards above the ground. Then you start cutting the scarf. It used to take 2 men a whole day to cut the scarf. Dad worked with a nuggetty little (5' 2") south italian bloke who would climb into the scarf to cut the last ft of scarf. They would also often be doing this in the rain and sometimes in a high wind - an OHS nightmare all round
    Then they would bring up the 8 ft cross cut. These guys are 12 ft above the ground when the tree starts to fall, They basically jump off the board and run like the clappers . . . . having seen it first hand that is one scary way to earn money. I also have a gruesome story about the south italian guy - he lived - just!

    It used to take 2 blokes a day and a half to cut down and dock up one karri!

    Dad's first chainsaw (1957-8) was a two man saw with a 96" blade - it used a huge soft metal chain. It was also very unreliable and they would spend up to 4 hours a day fixing it and sharpening the chain - 2 men could do 4 trees a day with this saw

    Then in 1959 Dad got his first one man McCullochs (42" bar) - one man could fall, up to 8 of those big trees a day. Scarfs were double cut, first cut was a 42 " deep and the either using a smaller saw or shorter bar a 30" scarf was cut inside that one.

    He also made the Readers Digest when he was in an ad for McCulloch. Us kids though this was way cooler than the work he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Cheers RBTCO, As a kid I used to think my dad was just average. He was 5' 8" about 80kg, and looked like he wouldn't hurt a fly.

    I remember the chainsaws being very heavy and could just lift one off the ground when I was about 10 years old but there was no way I was walking through the bush with it. He stopped milling when I was 13 after a massive log truck accident which left him ruined physically. I then forgot about how heavy his chainsaws were until I got my 076 last year and put a 42" bar on it! Suddenly there was new respect - too bad he wasn't alive for me to say this to him.

    He was also one of these guys who would fall big (10'+ diameter) karri's with an axe by cutting small horizontal grooves into the sides of trees and jamming boards in the groove and standing on the board and making the next groove until he was 3 or 4 boards above the ground. Then you start cutting the scarf. It used to take 2 men a whole day to cut the scarf. Dad worked with a nuggetty little (5' 2") south italian bloke who would climb into the scarf to cut the last ft of scarf. They would also often be doing this in the rain and sometimes in a high wind - an OHS nightmare all round
    Then they would bring up the 8 ft cross cut. These guys are 12 ft above the ground when the tree starts to fall, They basically jump off the board and run like the clappers . . . . having seen it first hand that is one scary way to earn money. I also have a gruesome story about the south italian guy - he lived - just!

    It used to take 2 blokes a day and a half to cut down and dock up one karri!

    Dad's first chainsaw (1957-8) was a two man saw with a 96" blade - it used a huge soft metal chain. It was also very unreliable and they would spend up to 4 hours a day fixing it and sharpening the chain - 2 men could do 4 trees a day with this saw

    Then in 1959 Dad got his first one man McCullochs (42" bar) - one man could fall, up to 8 of those big trees a day. Scarfs were double cut, first cut was a 42 " deep and the either using a smaller saw or shorter bar a 30" scarf was cut inside that one.

    He also made the Readers Digest when he was in an ad for McCulloch. Us kids though this was way cooler than the work he did.
    BobL most if not all of the guys on this forum hark back to those guys, in some way, to put it in perspective I regularly get called out to help grown men who fall over, get minor lacererations, sprained ankles etc who are thinking this is the end of the world for them and they can't cope.

    My grandfather was a forester in Vic and fought the 39" fires and weilded saws like you described, my Father is a carpenter who's nail gun is is right arm and still can sink 4" nails into hardwood in three hits.

    Respect is earnt and learnt

    Thanks BobL for you insight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibanez View Post
    . . . .my Father is a carpenter who's nail gun is is right arm and still can sink 4" nails into hardwood in three hits.

    Respect is earnt and learnt

    Thanks BobL for you insight
    Cheers Ibanez. I don't want to get into a pissing comp but your dad sounds like my uncle who worked on the railways for the timber trains in the 1950s. To be in the railway gang you had to be able to drive a railway spike into green jarrah sleeper in 4 sledge hammer blows. Hole was drilled by the foreman using his special drill (ie slightly undersized). Most guys on the gang were over 21 when they joined, but my uncle asked to join when he was 17 and did it in 3 blows!

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