Thread: How can you tell the difference between a real 090 or a 090 replica?

When I bought my 090 in '83 or '84 I was told by Stihl that it was the last one they had in Australia as they weren't allowed to sell them because they didn't have a chain brake. Not sure if it was the last or not......

If he bought it new 5 years ago it could have been imported from some country that was allowed to use them.

The Chinese copied the 070 but I've never heard of a fake 090.

Can you post some pics?

Originally Posted by Bedford

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The Chinese copied the 070 but I've never heard of a fake 090.

Can you post some pics?

They're not fakes, they were made under licence by Stihl in Mexico or Brazil.
If it is only 5 years old it will be one of those.

Originally Posted by BobL

They're not fakes, they were made under licence by Stihl in Mexico or Brazil.
If it is only 5 years old it will be one of those.

Are they still a good saw and would guys buy one if it was in really good condition. Still waiting for the photos to come through.

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This is the saw l was talking about. What do you guys think. Could it be a 070?

I dunno for sure, but it looks the goods

The 070 and 090 look identical but just have different bores.
Unless it says it is an 090 it will almost certainly be an 070 chinese knockoff - I've hear of people getting caught with this before.

Originally Posted by Raykin

Are they still a good saw and would guys buy one if it was in really good condition. Still waiting for the photos to come through.

Good saw ? I don't know much about the reliability of the non-German made 090 or 070, but as a saw it depends what you are doing.

As a saw design they're heavy as and they vibrate like hell. They're great fun to use for about 15 minutes hour and then, unless you are a hard core logger, they get heavier and heavier, and your hands, arms and shoulders turn to jelly. I guess if you need a good physical workout they are a good saw.

I'd buy an original as a curio, but for day to day sawing I'd get a lighter saw with good low vibe characteristics.

I reckon it's a Chinese 070, 105cc 070 large gasoline power chain saw/105cc M S070 chain saw/105cc M S070 chain wood saw/105cc stihl wood cutter/070 chainsaw-in Chainsaw from Home Improvement on Aliexpress.com

Interestingly the Stihl 070 was 106cc.

The 090 had a larger starter diameter as can be seen here, Stihl 090 AV Antivibration Chainsaw Best 090 Chain Saw Ever Listed 60 inch Bar | eBay

Also the 090 had a bigger clutch that was partly exposed below the clutch cover, pic 7 in the above link.

Of course the 090 had a bigger bore and cylinder taking it to 137 cc as well.

The saw you're looking at ( and the Chinese one) has the original non anti vibration handles whilst later 070/090s had 2 versions of AV handles.

I agree with Bedford, and as the TV program says, "It's a knock off"

The fact that the label is missing on such a new machine is somewhat disturbing.

Does said gentleman remember where he bought it and how much he paid for it?

These come up on ebay from time to time. They're not worth the plastic they're made of. Someone should go to China and pull their ears.

Pull their ears.....Too funny

Thanks for the info, it's been a great help and has saved me a lot of frustrating hours and money.
I will just have to keep looking for another 090AV and mill.
i have been looking for a saw so l could mill some timber on our farm, l want to use this timber to build steps and rails when l do the renos at my house.
Thanks again for the advice and l will continue read and gather lots of info from the wealth of knowledge in these forums

Originally Posted by Raykin

Thanks for the info, it's been a great help and has saved me a lot of frustrating hours and money.
I will just have to keep looking for another 090AV and mill.
i have been looking for a saw so l could mill some timber on our farm, l want to use this timber to build steps and rails when l do the renos at my house.
Thanks again for the advice and l will continue read and gather lots of info from the wealth of knowledge in these forums

The saw to look for to use on a chainsaw mill is a Stihl 084. It has no governors and is lighter than an 090. Being a much higher revving saw, in smaller logs where chain speed is significant the 084 will out cut the 090 unless the rakers are dropped significantly on the 090 and then you won't be able to use that chain on bigger logs. The difference in cutting times in big logs is not that significant as all chainsaw milling is slow due to longer setting up times and wood handling.

How big are the logs you are looking to mill?

Bob, knows his stuff, you'll do well to take some pointers

Our property is on the wimmera river and we have some large flood plains and the majority of the trees are red gum. They can vary in size but the stuff l have my eye on could 4-5ft thick and there is other small timber laying around. What would be the best chainsaw mill you would recommend?