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    I have two questions.

    1.) Is anyone aware of any of these country Wood shows in South Australia?

    2.) Liz - Is there an Adelaide WWW show in the forseeable future?
    Further to that, - Will you be looking at the prospects of an SA WWW Show at a Cheaper Venue?
    Murray Brigde, is Mid size Country Town, just off the Freeway, 45mins on the Eastern side of Adelaide.

    I realize this thread is for ideas, But we havn't had an SA www show for a few years now, so please try to understand my concerns.


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    I love attending field days, woodworking shows, etc but attendances seem to be down all over. One reason may be the internet. People now have easy access to ideas, 'how to' videos, can compare products and shop around for bargain prices. So it may be good to provide things that can't be obtained over the internet - eg, get people to bring small examples of their woodwork problems or photos of furniture that needs repair for expert solutions or offer a sharpening service at cheap rates. When advertising the event, promote the inspiration value - lots of people come away from these shows with a refreshed determination to do more stuff and better quality stuff. Maybe there is scope to offer reduced stall rental for businesses that promote the woodworking shows on their websites. Perhaps a sandwich board adjacent to the entrance to Bunnings and Masters parking lots for 2 weeks beforehand may be good focussed advertising. In all advertising, promote the fact that there is a lot of specialty timber available for sale. Just a quick stream of consciousness............Cheers.

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    What about a little wood work market/makers expo. There always seems to be space at the back that people rattle around in wondering what is missing. Perhaps booth prices could be more than a market cos its indoors, 4 days, etc. Might be a way of using up the extra space left by those "big" tool makers. Booths not too big. Only a couple of meters of table perhaps.

    Oh..... and do you have a face book page? One way that a lot of people seem to be passing round contacts and thing happening. Can keep a progressive connection with everyone around the country. Keep everyone up to date with whats happening. Who's coming. all that sort of thing.
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    sandown racecourse has a great spaces for something like this.
    It has indoor and outdoor areas.

    I've been to many cultural festivals there over the years.

    Maybe the sellers can get more space for smaller price will draw them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tea lady View Post
    What about a little wood work market/makers expo. There always seems to be space at the back that people rattle around in wondering what is missing.
    Now we are back to what I thought Phil suggested before he was rained upon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by _fly_ View Post
    sandown racecourse has a great spaces for something like this.
    It has indoor and outdoor areas.
    and it has lots of parking spaces.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    Now we are back to what I thought Phil suggested before he was rained upon.


    Peter.
    He wasn't rained upon. He just acted like he was.

    Anyway, now he's wandered off we can have a civilized discussion.
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    1) Another venue close to the WWW show but seperate that has something for all the family, furniture makers, sculptors, turners, luthiers, etc. Maybe the clubs will want to take a stand. Maybe Bungendore woodworks or some of the bigger gallerys. Maybe other types of quality handmade craft like glass, ceramics, fabrics, metalcraft. Spaces from 3mx3m to 5mx5m undercover or outdoors. Showgrounds are ideal with lots of parking and variety of sheds.
    2)Get some industry people and politicians to give out a few prizes... Best piece by a school student, Best overall, best furniture, best newcomer etc.
    3) Pitch it to the womens magazines and the lifestyle shows and the weekend papers. Tell them that this show has the best australian timberwork and world class craftsmanship and give them some stunning photographs of unique and beautiful things that they can only see at the show.
    4) Tour the show around the capital cities or close to the capital cities.

    The australian craft shows did really well until they let the quality slide. There are literally hundreds of great professsional makers in australia who would jump at the chance to do a top quality show that toured the major cities.
    5) Do it and they will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Falloon View Post
    As well as that we run a schools program they are also offered a discounted entry price of $6.00 and teachers have free entry. We send out worksheets (our exhibitors supply the questions) to the attending schools and keep in regular contact with them - we have really built this program up and now see large numbers of schools attend.
    I used to attend the Brisbane show a few years back when I lived in Bundaberg. We used to leave home at 6am to arrive at 10am, to find the place packed with schoolkids. They used to run recklessly around the pavilions colliding with less agile older woodies, crowding out the demos and making it difficult to move around. Yes we have a responsibility to encourage the next generation of woodworkers, but the way these kids behaved and acted, I dont think that is who they were. They were just happy to pay $6 for a day out of school.

    I can understand that the organisers like their money, but I doubt that they spend any money with the exhibitors apart from soft drinks and ice cream. They were spoiling the enjoyment of the show for those who wanted to be specifically there and not just preferring to be somewhere else other than school. Good day for the schoolkids and good for the gate takings but nothing but an inconvenience to the exhibitors and attendees.

    I do not know if the Brisbane show is still like that on the Friday but I have not encountered anything similar in Melbourne.

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    That was a few years ago Doug

    Still a lot of kids on Friday, but most now seem to be very well behaved, interested and some are keen to get a bit of knowledge. You can still tell the private school kids from the public by their dress manner and behaviour but on the whole they are all worth having at the shows.

    Most schools are given questionnaires to hand out to the kids and they have to be filled in by seeking information from various exhibitors.

    I have sold to kids on Fridays and more importantly to the schools because of the kids and their input after seeing demonstrations. I'm sure that others are the same.

    Cheers - Neil

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    Thanks for that insight Neil.

    It is good to hear that they are now given some meaningful tasks to occupy their time instead of just running around the place. And I suppose there may be the occasional manual arts teacher on a shopping expedition for some major equipment, so the exhibitors may have gotten more out of it than I thought.

    Having been to three Melbourne shows, the schoolkids there have been surprisingly well behaved, especially when compared to the ones I encounter daily on Melbourne public transport. Last year the schoolkids, especially the girls, had a ball with the guy with all the musical instruments up the end of the pavilion. They kept us all entertained. It was also fun watching Big Stan play with their heads, giving two big bulky boys a slow-cutting crosscut saw and two girls a faster saw and then watching the girls win.

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    Default Re: My Bright idea(s) to rejuvenate the T&WWWShows

    I completely agree with Charleville and I'm now kicking myself for choosing Brisbane over maleny this year.

    I spent what was for me a lot of money with one exhibitor and it was a great experience to meet the man and get instruction and tips. The rest of the show though I'd seen before. I'm looking for inspiration as well as instruction. The deals by vendors at the show aren't worth worrying about. My favourite stall at the show was unmanned, it was 3 pieces of furniture and a banner ad for the maker. The quality was so so, but the timber choices and other design elements were interesting. I'd love to see more examples of finished work and be able to talk to the makers. I couldn't imagine there's much in it for them though. How many woodworkers buy finished pieces. Not many I suspect.

    Maybe that's a different show, putting craftspeople together with buyers. I'd go along and pay an entry fee to get ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Geoff View Post
    I love attending field days, woodworking shows, etc but attendances seem to be down ... So it may be good to provide things that can't be obtained over the internet - eg, get people to bring small examples of their woodwork problems or photos of furniture that needs repair for expert solutions or offer a sharpening service at cheap rates.
    I think this would be good, a bit like those antique shows they have in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by tea lady View Post
    What about a little wood work market/makers expo.

    Oh..... and do you have a face book page?
    Ive been to a WW get together and now organising one too. They are great and the concept could be incorporated with the T&WWW show.

    Social media another fine avenue

    The Woodworking TV show by fineboxes can go a long way to improving the T&WW show

    If this show takes off you'll have a new wave of woodworkers the same way 'The Block', 'House Rules', 'Better Homes and Gardens' and the like have given rise to surgence in DIY and spin off for Bunnings MItre ten etc.

    Definitely more hands on would be great. would be nice to see a range of demonstrations from basic to advanced.

    The whole affair seems to be rather expensive, for you the suppliers/store holders and public. Try free entry and im sure your attendance will boom.

    Ill go thru all the preceding posts and see what else I might have to add.

    Regards

    Dave

    EDIT : I may have overlooked some points and many have been covered. Some other ideas I read about getting out of the cities.

    Feb 8 2014 I'm organising the 'Wood Workers Weekend Jerilderie Jaunt' (WWW Jerilderie Jaunt), this will coincide with the Jerilderie Letter Event about Ned Kelly. Down here you can hire the race course facilities from the shire for about $500 per day. There are a number of undercover sections, plenty of room for canvas Pavilions and possibly a number of horse stables that could be used. There is a commercial Kitchen. You would be free to Organise your own catering, bring in food vendors or use the local lions or apex club.

    This could be made into something big. What I want to see is guys (& gurls) bring their own tools and machinery and have an interchange of work and ideas. There could be collaborative work, demos and displays. A big swap meet and everything you have at your shows. I'll be meeting with the shire shortly and am on the committee organising the Letter Event. I would love to make this a huge thing.

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    I would Iike to see more shows in the west. We went to the Sydney show two years ago, well organized great event.

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    Default Where the hell are all the cRoweaters!!!!

    Where are you guys?

    Am I the only one in SA that is missing the T&WWW Show?

    Bit of support here wouldn't go astray



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