Thread: Not a good day

Originally Posted by Calm

Lets hope you dont say "if only i had........." or "I should have done ......................". You have had a warning so there is only one person to blame if anything happens later.

It is a big decision but it has to be made.

He was about 4 months old when he snapped...if all 4month old pups that snapped were put to death there wouldn't be any dogs living with people at all. The species would have been wiped out long ago. Either that or they would all be like they've had a labotomy.

The main problem is that we trust our dogs, and we have very good reasons too...most of the time they do the right thing. Some times they don't. I grew up with dogs, all kinds (my brother was into pig hunting big time) and never ever saw one sign from any of them that they couldn't be trusted...they were treated as dogs should be, and not let to be confused into thinking they are one of the humans in the house. Dogs shouldn't be allowed to sleep in the house (if you have kids).

If you trust your dog with kids you are looking for trouble...putting the dog to death after the act doesn't fix the problem, the problem was you initially trusting the dog and probably something to do with the dog thinking it was a human (or that we are all dogs and he is equal...or rather higher in the pack.

putting the dog to death after the act doesn't fix the problem

It stops it from doing it again. It would be nice if you could get some kind of promise from a dog to be good in future, but unfortunately you can't. Given the same circumstances, the dog will more than likely act the same way.

I think there is a big difference between a dog snapping, which many dogs do, and a dog tearing a child's cheek though. I don't think it's necessary to put down a dog that snaps.

I'm not against putting the dog to death...in fact if my dog did what this one did, it would be put to death. The trouble is, with my knowledge of dogs, I would blame myself and not the dog.

Also one reason we got a little dog...if the worst happens a little dog will inflict far less damage than a big dog. Usually.

People should be made to attend some kind of training when they get a dog...there is so much that people take for granted with dogs. Number one is that people need to be taught how to show their dog it's place "in the pack".

Yep I'de be increasing the dog's weight by 1/2 oz , only a little higher and your son looses an eye , in my view a dog is a dog, it's a pet it is not a child or a member of the family it's a pet and bottom of the pile, once they get into thinking their part of the family with rights you have a problem

Do not move the dog your only shifting the problem
A close friend of mine has a daughter that is disfigured quite badly from an attack by the neighbours dog.

This dog had been given to their next door neighbour because it had bitten a child and they had no children

If he also snapped at the Vet, I'd say there is a high chance he will snap again (child or adult). If he is on a property, I would expect him not to get another chance after that. (He wouldn't have got the first one from me.)

I hope your son recovers in time.

it attacks people, put it down.

Is the dog dead yet? It should be.

Sniff, I smell something. I 'm sure I can. Sniff, sniff,sniff. I can smell something! That certainly is the smell of rampant horrible rednecks working themselves up into a frenzy to lynch what, A DOG?

Get over yourselves! You are rude and inconsiderate of Toni's situation. Toni has allowed the forum members to enter her home, share her pain and her choices for what she believes is the best for her family which, until a few days ago included a dog. At the end of the day the decision is hers and not ours. Without a complete understanding of her situation you are in effect berating her for the decision to move the dog to a working farm with no children. No doubt it was a hard one for her.

Toni has shared her decision with us and we should be supportive of her, not standing around trying to see who can p*ss the highest up the wall with no regard for her feelings.

Those of you, who know who you are owe Toni an apology.

Originally Posted by prozac

Sniff, I smell something. I 'm sure I can. Sniff, sniff,sniff. I can smell something! That certainly is the smell of rampant horrible rednecks working themselves up into a frenzy to lynch what, A DOG?

Not just a dog, a vicious dog that has shown it will attack for no reason at all.

Originally Posted by prozac

At the end of the day the decision is hers and not ours.

If the dog had attacked anyone but her child, the decision would not have been hers, it would have been removed by the authorities and put down already.

Would also probably be facing criminal charges and most assuredly be facing civil charges.

Originally Posted by prozac

Toni has shared her decision with us and we should be supportive of her, not standing around trying to see who can p*ss the highest up the wall with no regard for her feelings.

If you post something like this, you have to expect an opposing view, not everyone is going to stand around and pat you on the back and say what a great thing you have done. At best, moving the dog is extremely irresponsible, at worst, it's best left unsaid. And what about the feelings of victims of dog attacks that have happened because some other irresponsible person has relocated a vicious dog.

Originally Posted by prozac

Those of you, who know who you are owe Toni an apology.

Don't think so.

Originally Posted by prozac

Sniff, I smell something. I 'm sure I can. Sniff, sniff,sniff. I can smell something! That certainly is the smell of rampant horrible rednecks working themselves up into a frenzy to lynch what, A DOG?

Rampant 'orrible rednecks, eh? I should have said responsible citizens.

Toni has allowed the forum members to enter her home, share her pain and her choices for what she believes is the best for her family.

Yes, I can see where sharing this misfortune with several thousand close friends should be respected as a family intimacy.


At the end of the day the decision is hers and not ours. .

As Geoff said, that would not be true if it had bitten someone else. And it da*n sure wouldn't be allowed over here. Full stop.

Sniff, I smell something. I'm sure I can. Sniff, sniff,sniff. I can smell something! That certainly is the smell of insipid latte-drinking bleeding hearts self-flagellating themselves into hysteria to save what, A DOG?

Can you guarantee that the dog will never come into contact with kids at its new home? Sometimes things need to be done that are unpleasant, doesn't mean that they should be avoided.

Mick

I think you have all missed the point.