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    As a producer of organic tomato sauces (our family business in Greece), all I have to say is: what Bob said.

    No sugar in the tomato sauce, if you make it right all you need is some butter, garlic, parmezan and it will be the best pasta dish you ever had.

    My mother is law is a wiry old lady, pushing 80, works around the house at least 10 hours a day with seemingly endless energy (while smoking 20 a day but that's unrelated). And she cooks, a lot. All the dishes she ever served us were rich in carbs in one way or another, usually pastry or pasta (or both). And bread on the side. But when I started reading about ketogenic and LCHF diets, I started observing her more closely, and for the first time I noticed that she never actually touches the food she serves

    She always prepares a separate meal for herself, and it's always pretty much the same: some kind of meat or fish, a good chunk of cheese, boiled veggies drenched in olive oil, maybe some olives or salad on the side. And she never touches sugar other than a spoonful in her morning coffee. And that's it. The old lady has been on keto all her life before we even knew what it's called.

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    Reminds me of a "Italian Nonna" type character that used to do front of house at a great little Italian restaurant in North Perth. No menu, for each course she would just tell you what was going in Italian with english side explanations and then you had to tell her what you wanted in Italian. If you said it wrong she would teach you how to say it properly, and if you ate everything on your mains plate you could sometimes get a second helping. One night I went to the toilet around the back and could see through the kitchen window that she was eating a Vegemite sandwich and later when I queried her about it she said she only at one meal a day and that was lunch. Breakfast was a cup of coffee and a fag. Lunch was a substantial meal and evenings was occasionally a light snack like a Vegemite sandwich..

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    I was diagnosed 20 years ago with type 2, that's despite being a fitness freak and living an extremely active lifestyle, I've never been fat, still aren't, despite being close to 70 and unable to exercise anymore. I'm about as far from leading a sedentary lifestyle as you can get. There is no history of diabetes in the family but I did and still do like sweet: cake, biscuits, chocolate and gallons and gallons of coke once upon a time. So, why did I get diabetes? pretty obvious to me, despite medical sciences denials in this area.

    I went to all the specialists, nutritionists, dieticians and pretty well anything to do with diabetes education and was put on oral medications, they didn't work at all and I found I could only eat two meals a day with low or no carbs, still my levels were too high and after two years I graduated to insulin.

    I struggled for a couple of years trying to control my BGLs all the while specialists and GPs telling me carb counting was nonsense. Eventually I graduated to carb counting, bought a book on the carb content of all foods and worked out how many units per carb and how many units for corrections.

    What a difference, since then my six monthly blood tests have been falling, currently they are in the mid to low sixes. I don't see a specialist anymore and my GP is happy with my control, so much so he never interferes, other than to tell me not to be so hard on myself, relax and let my six monthly levels rise a little.

    Insulin, far from being the black snake it is made out to be is still regarded as the best treatment for diabetes with no side effects.

    It's not a matter of diabetes becoming worse and having to progress to insulin, insulin is still the best treatment for diabetics. I eat what I want in quantities I want without fear of hypos or hypers; sure, I've had a few over the years, mostly when asleep but, I'm lucky I get warnings when my sugars are low and my body has adapted to the disease.

    Being a control freak, diabetes is a disease for which I am well suited, I control my sugar levels by understanding the part exercise, food, medication and a host of other things play, I control it rather than let it control me.

    For me, diabetes is a non event!

    No doubt all the doctors you see will steer you away from insulin for as long as possible but, realistically once on insulin diabetes is easy to control and still remains the best treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    I agree about the fat and sugar thing.
    It's far easier to pick on "fat" because unlike the sugar industry there are no real vested interests in "fat".
    I must disagree, "fat" has a plethora of vested interests -- weight watchers and lean cuisine to mention just two.

    your aunts are using fat as the flavour carrier
    The pasta sauce made with this involves a large knob of butter, salt and a small amount of crushed garlic.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    yep Bob in another life I was a Naturopath and nutritionist and counselled folk on avoiding cans,bottles and packets if they wanted to take control of their health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mature one View Post
    yep Bob in another life I was a Naturopath and nutritionist and counselled folk on avoiding cans,bottles and packets if they wanted to take control of their health.
    Yep when it all boils down to it the general key is to eat unprocessed food

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardy View Post
    Yep when it all boils down to it the general key is to eat unprocessed food
    And, not live past 50. That's all our bodies are designed for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardy View Post
    Yep when it all boils down to it the general key is to eat unprocessed food
    At work we measured the lead content of some foods - everything processed always had more lead in it than washed unprocessed food. The lead came from urban dust included during the processing, the same applies to other contaminants.

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