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14th January 2009, 11:08 PM #1
Government Corruption and the effect on Employees
As a prequil to this thread I would like to state that all comments are hypothetical even though the person in which they are written says otherwise, and all statemnts have no relation to reAL PERSONS OR SITUATIONS. All comments by all persons are hypothetical and any relation to actual events/persons should be deemed as a coincidence.
*****Integrity can be doubted by others, but it always remains within. The difficult thing is reaching karma and not six-packing the liars.*****
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14th January 2009, 11:13 PM #2
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What do you do when you have evidence of a government department editing/modifying evidence?
What do you do if a governemnt departments policy breaches legislation and there is a cover up?*****Integrity can be doubted by others, but it always remains within. The difficult thing is reaching karma and not six-packing the liars.*****
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14th January 2009, 11:27 PM #3
change jobs so you don't cop the stress of dealing with XXXXholes
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15th January 2009, 12:06 AM #4
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15th January 2009, 10:02 AM #5
Write a book about it and become famous
other than that what else is new ie many NSW state councils being sacked NSW state gov ministers being sacked
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15th January 2009, 10:07 AM #6
Ring Today Tonight and Current Affair and hold a toothbrush with your back to the camera.
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15th January 2009, 01:34 PM #7Cro-Magnon
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Find some old cardboard, the tattier the better. Crudely nail it to a garden stake. Write lots of tiny text in thick waterproof pen. Don't restrict yourself to writing conventionally right-to-left, top-to-bottom, cram as much text as you can in every direction.
Find a busy street corner in the CBD.
Forget to comb your hair.
Wear a cardigan.
Stand on the corner during the busiest times of day, making sure to block as much of the passing traffic as possible. Roll your eyes a lot. Occasionally lunge at passers-by just to make sure they've seen you.
Do this every day for three years.
Now you're part of the regular collection of nutters that believe in government conspiracies, etc, and your life will be truly enriched... as long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation. (A.Hitler)
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15th January 2009, 01:42 PM #8I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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15th January 2009, 04:38 PM #9Senior Member
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Got it in one!!
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15th January 2009, 11:47 PM #10
I have a feeling some of those sacking were so that an administrator could pass planning changes to NSW govt satisfaction. I took a minor issue to ombudsman that I believe administrator just covered up.
Fantapantz, you cannot report it for fear of reprisal. Go talk with a good investigative journo if it is serious enough.
Conspiracies! Did I ever tell you about meeting a Korean spy in 1976 who had interesting things to say about Harold H.? (Sorry no names, true story)prozac
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16th January 2009, 07:20 AM #11
I'll wait until I lose my job before the investigative journalist is contacted.
When i do lose my job i will try the cardboard thing. I'll do it outside the ABC or Newscorp and hand out fliers,hopefully soemone will be board of doing stories on fad diets in the 730 timeslot.*****Integrity can be doubted by others, but it always remains within. The difficult thing is reaching karma and not six-packing the liars.*****
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16th January 2009, 07:37 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Queensland's Government did this a 'few' years ago - destroyed all relevant documents after receiving a sub poena, on advice from one of their senior public servants. His name - Kevin Rudd.
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16th January 2009, 07:52 PM #13Senior Member
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Fanta,
If everybody in Brisbane is aware of the "rort".,then nobody cares, so find a comfy pub, have a few, and forget it.
If you are sure that the rort is still a rort, swallow your pride, cover your bottom(!), and seek out a GOOD investigative journalist.(I'd go further than "The Courier"!)
Do not be afraid, They will respect your anonanymity, and, if it's worth it, blow the lid to buggery!!
The fourth estate is not all bad.Last edited by Lignin; 16th January 2009 at 07:55 PM. Reason: Remove typos and censorship of slang for "Bottom"
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16th January 2009, 10:22 PM #14
If this hypothetical situation is happening in your workplace I would ensure you have evidence to support any claims you might make in the future (including names dates and possible witnesses). I wouldn't leave it too long though as questions might be asked why you didn't do something about it sooner.
It's only a mistake if you don't learn from it.
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16th January 2009, 11:01 PM #15
Not doing anything sooner? How about not doing anything at all ? How can you beat the government when they have modified evidence?
I do have proof of that, the silly buggers didn't modify file names before sending me audio recordings. So The properties of the files show when they were modified. This was after sending me a blank disc originally, and not sending a disc to my union rep as requested.
How can you fight a broad accusation when they refuse to tell you when where and exactly what you did?
Or how about, an outcome that basically says: The evidence says you didn't say it, but because they didn't read your email properly and hence they thought you said it, we'll still count you guilty of it saying it because they didn't show wrong intent by accusing you. And by the way we refuse to interview any other parties and will treat everything you say as heresay because we didn't interview the other parties that you and another witness asked to be interviewed.
Standard Government Policy is: "Do not have an investigation unless you know what outcome you want and are willing to work towards it. The truth is not in the best interests of flexibility, geeze next people will want accountability, and imagine the paperwork that would involve."*****Integrity can be doubted by others, but it always remains within. The difficult thing is reaching karma and not six-packing the liars.*****
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