Thread: Have the health Gurus got it wrong?

Hi, is this perhaps the diet proposed by Prof Tim Noakes?
He wrote a book more than 20 years ago about carbo loading - especially for marathon and ultra marathon (The Comrades marathon) runners.
Recently he he said to everyone to throw away that book and follow a new regime of taking in meat, fat etc. and sidcard the carbs and sugars.
I am about to start something myself as I need to get my sugar levels down. All other level are fine due to heart meds. and some diet adjustment.
Last year when my wife and I was in South Africa for 3 weeks, I ate bacon/eggs breakfast every morning and did not pick up any weight.
Going to South Africa for the whole of Nov again and will have bacon/eggs for brekkie every day again in the guest house. Gotta love that.
Regards
Les

Indeed.

Low Fat at the supermarket is simply: fat removed, suger inserted.

Yay! Think the sheeple. Low fat. Its a diabetes injection.

If it works for you, do it.

I personally think wheat is a disaster. If in 10 years, research shows long term consumption to be the root cause of "everything" I would not be surprised.

Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Autism, Diabetes, Hypertension, Dementia, IBS, a host of cancers.... the works.

I have since the end of June this year, added fat to my diet for health reasons, and have lost 7 kg in the first 2 months without any exercise or cravings etc.

Yes Les, it is indeed the Tim Noakes approach>

Even my cardiologist has approved of this way of eating!

Originally Posted by artme

Yes Les, it is indeed the Tim Noakes approach>

Even my cardiologist has approved of this way of eating!

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Les

This is just the Atkins diet re labeled. It re appears under a variety of forms from time to time. Long on protein and low on carbs, very low. It's a good diet so Long as you can stay away from alcohol. I have a bacon & egg sandwich for breakfast every day. No prob's with maintaining my weight until someone opens a nice bottle of Sav Blanc.

TT

Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon

This is just the Atkins diet re labeled. It re appears under a variety of forms from time to time. Long on protein and low on carbs, very low. It's a good diet so Long as you can stay away from alcohol. I have a bacon & egg sandwich for breakfast every day. No prob's with maintaining my weight until someone opens a nice bottle of Sav Blanc.

TT

Why the emphasis to stay away from alcohol when using this diet ?

Surely a glass now and then wont hurt ?



Bill

Hi,
The quickest way to loose weight is to get sick, that is how most of these fad diets work, they make you sick.

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Originally Posted by steamingbill

Why the emphasis to stay away from alcohol when using this diet ?

Surely a glass now and then wont hurt ?



Bill

Hi Bill
As I understand it, The key to the Atkins type of diet is that the high protien and green veg intake will eventually bring about something called Ketosis. This means that the body begins to burn up its stored fat. This is a good thing. What stops it is sugar. Especially in wines as the body will absorb the wine quicker than the meal you've consumed with it - or the chips & nibbles. So the wine gets digested and the food becomes stored fat. What is amazing is that when you are in Ketosis you will lose body fat dramatically without excessive exercise.

TT

Just to stir the pot a bit, here's something about butter



TT

Originally Posted by A Duke

Hi,
The quickest way to loose weight is to get sick, that is how most of these fad diets work, they make you sick.

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Were you born cynical Hugh or have your life experiences made you that way.

This diet has not made anyone sick. There is a scientific reason for the fact that it works. I was reading somewhere that this sort of diet was used over 100 years ago to bring down people's weight, and that was well before the current trend to blab about "new discoveries" in all the popular magazines and talk shows.

ketosis good? I think any diabetics or gsd sufferers might disagree, this is what puts my kids in hospital, ketoacidosis occurs when the body (liver and muscle) has run out of glycogen to convert to usable glucose, (the point of having a liver as a fuel tank), thus the body starts to look for alternatives, fat then muscle the human body will even convert the brain into glucose to keep itself alive, there is a safe range for ketones in the blood and it is quite small. I could rant on about this till thecows come home, but i have said my two cents regards joel

I think sugar is a major factor of putting on weight. Try looking at the foods at the supermarket and read the label at the back. Now keep in mind that 4 grams of sugar equals to one teaspoon.

I am not going to expand on this as I think people need to look for them selves and make their own decisions.

Originally Posted by shedbound

ketosis good? I think any diabetics or gsd sufferers might disagree, this is what puts my kids in hospital, ketoacidosis occurs when the body (liver and muscle) has run out of glycogen to convert to usable glucose, (the point of having a liver as a fuel tank), thus the body starts to look for alternatives, fat then muscle the human body will even convert the brain into glucose to keep itself alive, there is a safe range for ketones in the blood and it is quite small. I could rant on about this till thecows come home, but i have said my two cents regards joel

I fully agree with you. My wife is an insulin dependent diabetic and if she develops ketosis I have to urgently take her to hospital for urgent treatment.

There is a reason for the Health forum, with it's warnings, and this should be in it lest anyone follows this advice without proper medical supervision.

Peter.