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    Quote Originally Posted by A Duke View Post
    Hi,
    My personal take on the subject of weight loss.
    The quickest way to lose weight is to get sick and that's how the quick fix fad diets work, they make you sick.
    FWIW
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    Actually the last 18 months has seen a vast improvement in my health after about 25 years of not having good health. I am in total remission from Ulcerative Colitis and I suspect that this has something to do with my weight gain but certainly not all.

    I have been talking to some health professionals and when I relate my exercise/weight loss story to them they acknowledge that the body gets used to exercise then conveniently don't want to debate what happens when exercise is used for weight loss and the body becomes used to it thus negating the effects. It is funny how all conversation ceases on that point. I know exercise has other side benefits but as a tool to lower weight it is limited, I have a friend who has always been super fit and exercises by cycling many kilometres a day or runs etc, enters cycling competitions etc and he is gaining weight as he gets older!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Duke View Post
    Hi,
    My personal take on the subject of weight loss.
    The quickest way to lose weight is to get sick and that's how the quick fix fad diets work, they make you sick.
    FWIW
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    LOL.

    A friend just spent a week in hospital after contracting salmonella. It sure worked to take some kilos off.

    In my case my weight remains stable, just swaps between muscle mass built up over winter and a paunch that re-emerges in summer
    Cheers, Ern

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    Heard one on the radio the other day and this bloke just took man made sugar out of his diet, lost 40kg and it has maintained it for many years now.
    He claimed that the average Australian has 400gr of sugar per week but only see less the 10% of it. The rest is hidden in package foods from supermarkets.
    Try and find thing that have less the 3gr/100gr you will only need a hand basket to shop with.....
    My partner has a problem with high blood presser so we both have remove salt from our diets and we survived. Can now taste what food meant to taste like and are liking it.
    So I now looking at this sugar lowering idea my self. It take about 6 week to adjust your taste buds,(get unhooked) much the same as with the salt.

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    Another option is to reduce the insulation of the garments you wear and the settings of any heating in the house.

    Within a month or maybe more your metabolic rate increases and you burn off fat.

    And never eat if you don't feel hungry.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post

    Within a month or maybe more your metabolic rate increases and you burn off fat.

    And never eat if you don't feel hungry.
    Point one doesn't work for me, I tried It last winter. Point two is open to debate as some reckon just the opposite, eat little and eat often with no single large meal. One doctor says use appetite suppression drugs which he will prescribe and another is dead set against the same idea.
    CHRIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Duke View Post
    Hi,
    My personal take on the subject of weight loss.
    The quickest way to lose weight is to get sick and that's how the quick fix fad diets work, they make you sick.
    FWIW
    Regards

    Most of the quick/fad diets make you lose a lot of fluids- which come across as rapid weight loss. This is why you tend to put that weight back on quickly after the usual 30 day money back guarente date; you're body needs that fluid. This is what usually happens when you get sick too, especially something like food poisoning. You're body is dumping fluids but you'll take that on board again pretty quick.

    Anything that's advertised as making you lose more than 1kg a week should be turned down- if you lose more than that, your body think's it'a not getting enough food and will retain fat stores. This just leads to you becoming more tired easier and not losing the weight you want.

    I've read articles about simple things such as 500ml of water when you first wake up to get the metabolism started. A small breakfast is good for this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by codeMunk3y View Post
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    I've read articles about simple things such as 500ml of water when you first wake up to get the metabolism started. A small breakfast is good for this too.
    That's funny the articles I read say to have a BIG breakfast, small lunch and a snack for tea?

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    I've seen other trains of thought, I know someone who successfully lost weight by having 5 small meals that were around half of their normal meal. This resulted in them eating 5/6ths what they would normally eat, and stopped them becoming hungry in between meals.

    Personally I don't take much care of my weight, I eat fairly good food though, usually a small breakfast, sushi for lunch and then something home made for dinner (Spaghetti, curries etc.)

    When I was actively cutting, breakfast would be yoghurt and a banana (post workout) and I'd buy the salad packs from the supermarket, have half for lunch, half for dinner and try not to eat after 4pm. If you eat too late, you don't give your body enough time to digest it properly before your metabolism starts to slow when you sleep.

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    Here's a good read on why health journalism (re weight and other hot topics) is often wrong, and it's mainly because health studies are themselves often wrong or inconclusive:

    'Survival of the wrongest' : Columbia Journalism Review
    Cheers, Ern

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    I'm currently on the cruise phase of the Dukan diet. So far so good and no hunger, just eat whatever I feel I need from a list of accepted foods.

    Once I get to target weight, about 15kg to go, it's then the consolidation phase which lasts as long as the cruise phase took.

    My breakfast is 2 tablespoons of oatbran mixed with low fat yoghurt. The oatbran really lowers my appetite.

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    G'day All,

    I would like to make 2 points

    Night shift stuffs your body clock and metabolism [and for years after you stop doing it too]and you spend years having "sugar" fixes to stay awake. Doesn't help with weight loss one bit.

    The other point, is that as you get older, you lose muscle, therefore your metabolism reduces.

    There will be wiser and better heads out there than mine that can give "figures" on this

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    currently doing the inappropiately named fast diet which is 2 days of low calorie eating (600 cal allowed) and 5 days of eating your normal intake of food fast days for me are monday and thursday plus walking for 1/2 an hour or more most days. Wow... seems to be working I am into the 4th week and the 3rd kilo is coming off.
    3 months prior to this I had decided that i needed to lose weight after a visit to the docs showed I had high blood pressure and highish cholesterol levels well I started walking and cut down the amount of fatty foods
    god was it tough I couldnt stick to it thought I had will power nope useless as tits on a bull I did well for 2 or so weeks then bad habits started creeping in I would find myself eating a big bag of chips because of the hunger pangs from eating just boring salads and steamed bloody veg and etc etc etc.##### I'm going to die sooner rather than later . Then I saw a Tv show on SBS Eat, Fast, Live Longer with Dr Michael Mosley then I downloaded the book he had written for some more info . I know its early days but I find that this regime real easy to manage the feast days more than make up for the fast days and I dont seem to be eating more on the the feast days I have actually found that i cant sit down and eat as much as I am filling up much quicker tried eating a big bag of chips yesterday couldnt doit Yeah!!!!
    This is not something I feel I will need to stick to forever but once my weight has come down and the blood levels reduced I think I can mantain fasting once a week easypeasey.
    As i type this its a fast day I have had a cup of black tea and 2 boiled eggs and will have a black coffee later plus water throughout the day dinner will be some tom yum soup total cals for the day around the 550 mark. Not feeling hungry at the moment but the pangs do seem to come in waves that last a couple of minutes then disappear keeping busy helps and the first day they seemed to last for 15 orso minutes and very strong not so much now I wonder if they will dissappear alltogether.
    Anyhoo thats enough for now will post in a few weeks to let you know the progress
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    You should all think about your fluid intake. It can have a major effect on your weight. Whilst you may be counting calorie in the solid food intake it happens that the fluids are needed to fill you up. How many softdrinks do you consume, how many beers, wines, spirits, juices? If you factor in the calories and are honest about the intake you may find that these total up to what your allowed - without eating! Drink water or sugarfree softdrinks only and you may be suprised by the weight loss. This is just my opinion - my observation - my own theory that I apply to myself. I too have lost weight and regained it and the culprit was sugar softdrink, juices and wine. Hope it may help others.
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    thirteen weeks in and 10 kilos lost
    Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they
    bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubar View Post
    thirteen weeks in and 10 kilos lost
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