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  1. #46
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    Interesting reading.

    I moved from Sydney to the Daylesford/Glenlyon region and no regrets. Beautiful environment with crisp clean air. Medical facilities are well above average and Ballarat is just a 30-minute drive away (Bunnings... for easy returns ).

    Only problem I have here is that my tractor has been out of action for a year and it costs an arm and a leg to have it repaired (Kiota DK40).

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruik View Post

    Only problem I have here is that my tractor has been out of action for a year and it costs an arm and a leg to have it repaired (Kiota DK40).
    that'd never happen in Sydney

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    Hi,
    I realise that you started this thread some months ago. Have you made a decision yet? Have you actually made the move? If so, best of luck. My experience doing the same thing has been a very positive thing! My wife and I moved from suburban Melbourne to the Yarra Valley about 10 yrs ago and we have never looked back.

    If not, rather than prattle on here, send me your ph no in a PM and I'll be happy to share some valuable tips with you on what to look for and what to avoid.

    Cheers
    Doug

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    Well the first term is over, I have survived 2 months 1 term of school. At this time I cannot see myself staying regional for more than 1 or 2 years at the most. Assuming I last that long.

    For those who have never meet me and may not know that I have an accent and could easily pass as some kind of "ethnic". Even if my blood is 95% German/Dutch/English with a the remainder a mix of East Asian and I have lived 3/4" of life in Australia. However the fact that I am not pure white has become a problem.

    The school has a group of students who are devout neo-nazis. From the first class I had with them they have gone out of their way to harass me. Talking in an Indian accent and rocking their head side to side. Launching into rants about how Hitler was a great man who helped to protect White Australians from Jews, Muslims, Aboriginal and Blacks. Not to mention Donal Trump, their hero. They are using social media and messaging platforms to spreed rumours that I am Muslim - a treasonous crime. On parent teacher interviews staff had to intervene when a parent of one these students took offence to having a negor Muslim tell them that their Hitler loving son was not the greatest. The parents are so proud of their son, they remind me of the Duke family of KKK fame. At the parent teacher interview I physically felt that they were moments away from beating me if other staff did not intervene.

    It has gotten to the point were two students have been removed from my classrooms. Because they go to the principle, were they make baseless accusation and then the school is forced to investigate. With baseless accusations they cannot remove me however at some point the school may find it easier to simple remove me to keep nazi elements within the school happy. Replacing me with a pure Arian. The students know that making false claims will not get them in trouble so they will keep doing it and their parents support them.

    Then there was a trip home last week. When stopped at the traffic light I saw a Holden ute in front. The tailgate was painted with a confederate flag (a known hate symbol), the number plate was "Rdneck", the ute was covered with stickers like "White and Proud of It", and to top it off the ute was outfitted with a shooting platform, spot lights and other hunting paraphernalia. The driver would have put a bullet in my brain without hesitation.

    This is not the kind of environment that I feel welcome or safe in.

    While this is not indicative of everyone and while the staff/school are for the most part welcoming. I know that I am not wanted by the community. Having now seen the hatred that fills this place I can understand why migrants never stay in regional areas and return to the safety of the big cities as soon as their permanent residency comes through.

    On the bright side my year 7's adore me, one told me I am her favourite teacher and gave me a hug at the end of term. I can tell that they genuinely learned something in my classes, they had a good time, they got a taster for working metal and wood and they took their work home to show mum and dad with pride. In the past students just abandon their work because it was all of such poor quality. Leaving me to dump three ute loads of abandoned projects from previous years.

    However no matter how much good work I do and no matter how much some kids my like me I do not see myself living in this kind of environment. It's mid term break and I am planing to go to Melbourne a couple times to see friends, eat food, shop for food and to feel welcomed by strangers.

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    Sorry to hear about your recalcitrant students and environment.
    Many teachers feel like you do after one term, are you able to talk to you supervisors about it? I had my big doubts at about the same time. Things got a bit better after the second year but I still wanted out, I then set up a planned exit by undertaking more study but it took longer than expected and I ended up teaching for a total of 7 years. .

    RE; Treatment from certain Students
    These people cannot be allowed to get away with this sort of nonsense.
    I know it's easy for me say for me to say, but I would be documenting (diarising) this in detail and submitting copies to the principal, and the Human Rights Commissioners office.
    https://www.humanrights.gov.au/about...soutphommasane. Maybe seek advice from that office about how to do this.
    Times/dates/locations, what was said by both sides, witnesses present etc.
    It's hard to do this in a detached way because it can lead to stressful brooding over the issues, but you need to protect yourself.
    If things go pear shaped and you don't have this sort of detail on hand you won't have much to support your side of things.

    BTW I would be very careful about touching/hugging any students.

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    I would love to transition out of secondary and into tertiary education, however there are not many opportunities for teaching furniture making at University. I would have to undertake a masters and there is few places that offer furniture making at a masters level that I would be interested in. It would would mean moving back to Canberra or Launceston. To be honest I would choose to go to the Canada or the EU, or even better would be Japan.

    I am making records in Compass, however I think making copies that I can keep would also be wise. I am prone to anxiety and I work my guts out to give the kids the best educational experience. So it stresses me when I have to deal with this kind of sh-it. My hope is that now these two students are out my classes things will settle, but it will not stop them from bad mouthing me to parents, staff and students. My other concern is being a small town running into them and having to physically defend myself from a bunch of neo-nazis and their supporters.

    I have not spoken to anyone in the school because I simple do not trust them. You never know what their personal agenda maybe and too who they may share our conversations with.

    I tend to be very careful of physical contact, the student hugged me but I did not reciprocate the hug. I was caught off guard by the students actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    I would love to transition out of secondary and into tertiary education
    A while back I moved from secondary to TAFE. The student attitude difference was unbelievable.

    Having to only deal with students that wanted to be there was a different world, until the government decided to "retrain" the unemployable, then it was like secondary again.

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    I would try not to worry too much about the bad mouthing. Chances are if they are bad mouthing you they are doing the same to lots of other so their option about anyone is not worth much. My take ended up being if you are doing your job right your will always be treading on some lazy mongrels toes as its impossible not to do so. My old dad used to say, "if you are out front out will always have someone trying to boot you in the clacker"

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    Sorry to hear that. All I will say is to make use of your phone's recording capability to catch those foul mouth up to no good sobs and report them, wether you are moving out or not.

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    This sounds too terrible. Not only is this destroying your dream of country life, along with high levels of stress, but your work and finances are at risk. You are at risk for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and depression. The school must take action, and they will if they are aware of the impending financial threat that is heading their way. Speak with an Education Department supervisor and let them know the situation. You may also need legal representation. You are keeping records. Do a few sound recordings as well. What I would be aiming for at this time, if I was you, is relocation to another school in a distant district (you will not want to remain where you are after this), and the Education Department arranging this and picking up the tab for relocation (at the least).

    Regards from Perth

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    No matter what they say I'll bet you will find making recordings will not be accepted as evidence and could land you in hot water.

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    Default Nuke it from space, its the only way to be sure....

    Record everything.

    On my phone, for calls, is an auto-record funtion. I can replay or store them if I wish (which I do, so to get details).

    It also records at various bitrates, either voice/noise activated or continuous. I'd record the lot.

    I'd ask the schools lawyer about it. As others have said, financially nuke the school from space. Go immediately right up to the top of the education pile and write a critical letter.

    I'd make a huge deal of recording everything in class. Video too, mounted on the walls.

    This teacher does it: https://www.youtube.com/user/misterwootube his classes are live to the internet, recorded and can be watched by all.


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    These students and their parents are a cancerous plague on our society. It is time to rip them out roots and all and throw them through the mulcher.

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    The recording is there to prove that a member of the teaching staff's health and safety requires serious attention of the education dept. The lawyer's will sort out the legality issue no doubt.

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    Before you record anything have a read of this.
    https://www.education.vic.gov.au/sch...s/privacy.aspx

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    Use the bureaucracy. Write a formal complaint about each student and parent as it occurs.

    State you were threatened by them.

    One filing per incident. Enforce a form of malicious compliance.

    https://www.education.vic.gov.au/sch...ages/risk.aspx

    https://www.education.vic.gov.au/sch...ionorders.aspx

    I'd go for an even harsher regime. Use technology against them. Use a social media monitor and record their posts. Take out AVO's and sue them for liable/slander/defamation.

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