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    Having spoken to a lawyer a few years ago I know that it is illegal to record anyone in Australia without their consent. Schools require parents consent to record and many parents withhold that consent for a variety of reasons.

    I am surprised by the recommendation for a legal recourse. It is not in my nature to seek such remedies.

    My view is - that starting a legal fight, going to another school/district. Would only give these people what they want. They want me to leave and go back to Afghanistan or Lebanon or as Donald Trump put it one of those "sh-it hole countries". Even if my sh-it hole country is Switzerland.

    I also believe that the greatest revenge I can have against people like this is to make a life, to become an indispensable and beloved teacher.

    These people deserve our pity. They listen to our political leaders, radio talk show hosts, they surf the net hanging out on websites/forums that I will not mention. Feeding on and regurgitating hate without the cognitive capacity to reason. Even if I win a trillion dollars lawsuit all the way to the UN Human Rights commission it would not change their behaviour or minds. It would only reinforce their preconceptions.

    They do not hate me, they hate what I am which is simple "different" from their narrow conception.

    However I will make notes of all events, as a teacher we have a system called Compass and we are told to enter all events no matter how trivial into it for the above reason. I will also chase up joining the Teachers Union something that I have not done yet.

    In the end I have about 300 kids that I will directly teach this year. Only 1 is a neo-nazi, two more are followers of the first. That still leaves me 297 good kids to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    These are stupid people they need pity.
    Well the first thing to do is be careful about what you say about them on here. There could so easily be a member in the Traralgon area who could point them towards these posts......in which case this problem will become immeasurably worse.....
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    One drop kick amongst 300 is but a rounding error or statistical aberration. No doubt he is "known to authorities".

    Perhaps talk to other teachers and involve them? No doubt they are experiencing the same.

    I apologise for my belligerence. Racism makes my blood boil. I apologise also if I've caused distress or made anyone uncomfortable with my rantings.

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    is there an update to this tale? I saw the other new thread....

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    without wanting to be negative, but here is a thing that was apparently on the tele: https://www.9news.com.au/national/60...b-64fb8ae321af

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    These people deserve our pity. They listen to our political leaders, radio talk show hosts, they surf the net hanging out on websites/forums that I will not mention. Feeding on and regurgitating hate without the cognitive capacity to reason. Even if I win a trillion dollars lawsuit all the way to the UN Human Rights commission it would not change their behaviour or minds. It would only reinforce their preconceptions.
    Even if you didn't take it to court, getting the Education Department involved, should make the students accountable. We are constantly being told, you can't say this that or whatever in this Politically Correctness World, why can't you use that to try to stamp out the bad behaviour.
    I'll be the first one to admit to not being politically correct in some form, but, it is done without Malice.
    It's little wonder then where the ratbag element comes from. When I went to school, back in the late 50's and 60's, our teachers were respected, they commanded authority.
    Now, parents expect the teachers to teach their "angels", but heaven forbid if it's not inline with their ideas. They seem to want it both ways, they can't control their own children, but expect to be able to control them, and then chastise the teacher when they do.
    I know how Thumbsucker feels, I'm from a similar background, (Dutch born, with Dutch parents) and was constantly told to go back to wogland etc, harrased, as a school student. I don't have an accent, but because of my name, I was picked on, constantly. I now suffer severe depression because of the treatment I got at school.

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    https://www.education.vic.gov.au/sch...s/privacy.aspx The Privacy and Data Protection Act 2014 applies to all forms of recorded information or opinion about an individual who can be identified, including photographs and emails. It establishes standards for the collection, handling and disposal of personal information and places special restrictions on ‘sensitive information’ such as:
    Recording a voice would be acceptable, to show the type of aggravation used against a teacher
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    Not good to hear KB. I'm afraid when a child I was one who harassed migrants with taunts and jokes such as Wog and Ding. Unfortunately as children we don't appreciate the stresses we place on people with our behaviours.

    Interestingly, all my friends were Indian, Italian, Polish, Argentinian and so on, that should give you an indication that the comments were mere throwaways with no real malice intended.

    I have often thought I would like to run across some of the people I taunted as a child and apologise for my thoughtless comments, so, on behalf of those who taunted you and for those I personally taunted I would like to apologise.

    Take heart that as children we had no malice, the taunts were mere throwaways. If not for the different races that migrated to our shores all those years ago Australia would not be the country we now enjoy.

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    The older I get (49), the more I realise I've been wrong on almost everything.

    Words are power.

    Words can help, elevate and enliven, but they can also destroy, debase and humiliate.

    One doesn't need to lift a finger to harm a person. It doesn't require a beating. A well aimed insult is something, that KB has demonstrated, lasts a lifetime.

    For the last 10 years, especially the last 5, I've tried very hard to be a Good Man. I'll never be a paladin or knight, but I try to do the right and kind thing now. Say good things, mind what I say, not to pass off jibes or sarcasm as some form of intellectualism.

    Doing good for the sake of good alone is all is needed. It is not weakness. It is strength.

    One day, I hope to apologise to all those I've insulted, belittled or demeaned accidentally or otherwise. As I said, now I'm older I finally understand, properly, the lessons my teachers tried to get me to learn....

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    At the end last term a female Chinese and a female Japanese teacher abruptly left the school. The reason given for their departure is racial intimidation by both students and certain staff. My current school asked me to confirm my intention to stay into 2020, I refused to commit, since I have decided to leave. I am putting out feelers for another school. I have settled into country life and I enjoy the more relaxed pace, however I need to find a more progressive and inclusive community.

    The difference between mean spirited kids today and in the past is the world is radically different. These kids have been indoctrinated by social media, parents and politicians they know what they are saying and they feel the impunity of their words and actions.

    A race war is coming based on nationalism and religious superiority. The age of international peace, free trade, and globalism is over. Mongrel dogs like me will be some of the first to rounded up and cleansed.

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    I am really sorry to hear this (and it does not help if I predicted it earlier in the thread). I fear that you live in an area in which prejudice runs high.

    I abhor any form of prejudice. There was more than enough of this in my childhood, which was growing up in South Africa. Even the beauties of Cape Town, which was "progressive", was not enough to keep us there, and we migrated to Oz 35 years ago. There will always be those that remain narrow minded and afraid, and scapegoat someone, or a group, to blame for their own failures and inadequacies. Fortunately, they are really the minority, although their noise makes them seem more. I love the melting pot that is Perth, and I get to meet so many different people in my work. It is always so reassuring when the most unlikely person shows their ability for sensitivity.

    I did write earlier that you would likely move. You deserve better, and the school do not. They should have stood by you (and the others) when it became apparent what was going on. At the least now, they should step in to aid with your relocation.

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