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  1. #16
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    I live on acres. With national park scrub on one side.
    I have a foxy cross that just loves ferral cats, the last one he got was almost as big as him.
    We have a lot of small birds and parrots breeding in the tree and nest boxes.
    No ferral cats around here, guess they don't like the place.
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    If only we could genetically engineer cats that only preyed upon Indian Mynah birds, rats, rabbits and cane toads! Until such a time we just need to keep culling the buggers but it is a very long term activity. I have many many cane toads on my property that are attracted to my bug zapper, I find that a couple of weeks worth of night time golf knocks them down to only one or two a week, but if I stop the population recovers within a few weeks as new ones move in.

    To me the biggest issue is poor cat ownership. I have two desexed rescue cats and they are curfewed at night and only have access to a small area of the yard where nothing bigger than lizards roam yet there are at least two neighbourhood moggies that are left out all night. I approached one of the owners and requested that they kept theirs in at night because it strays onto my property and drive my two berserk when they see it out of the window; the response was “oh, we can’t do that; she hates being kept in at night”. That mentality drives me up the fornicating wall.
    Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.

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    A 222 is the best thing for cats.
    I am learning, slowley.

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    If you can hit the cat with a bow and arrow, that sounds great!
    Or a shotgun, rifle, hammer, big lump of wood even. Not always that easy though.
    Where I live in Tassie we saw a feral cat walk down our pathway one summers evening. We borrowed a possum trap off some friends and caught the cat on the first night.
    A lead injection into the head disposed of it with minimal fuss.
    Next night out of curiosity I set the trap again, and got another one.
    And the next night.....for SIX NIGHTS IN A ROW.
    Seventh night nothing.
    Eighth night,another one.
    We were horrified how many of the damn things were out there.
    The compost heap swelled enormously and the local barred bandicoots, wrens etc breathed a heavy sigh of relief.
    Have nothing against responsible cat ownership, however that is a rare thing.

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    A couple of weeks ago I spotted some baby Banded Rail birds on my Landcare site, a few days later I saw a cat that had a bell and a name tag running along where the birds would normally walk. I have not seen the babies or parents since seeing the cat, hopefully they are hiding somewhere safe as they were the first of their type that I had seen in the creek.

    We had cats when I was a kid but they all become horrible animals when they are out in the wild, one of ours bought a snake home one day. Dr Karl suggests fitting a bell to all cats, he said to start at 5kg and work from there.
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    Dr Karl suggests fitting a bell to all cats, he said to start at 5kg and work from there.

    Years ago we had a naturalist in the west who was going to introduce cat flu to get rid of the feral cats and if you had a pet cat then you would have immunize against the disease. He got crapped on from great heights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by groverwa View Post
    Dr Karl suggests fitting a bell to all cats, he said to start at 5kg and work from there.

    Years ago we had a naturalist in the west who was going to introduce cat flu to get rid of the feral cats and if you had a pet cat then you would have immunize against the disease. He got crapped on from great heights.


    I think there is one that would do the job and it is currently on the rise, we just need it to hit the feral ones.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_panleukopenia

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    I had a couple of opportunities to get the cat since we have been here but let them slip because the Bow which is a compound bow hasn't been used for ten years and I needed to touch up on the distances I'm seeing the cat at and the heavier broad head tip if I was going to use that.

    I got the bow out yesterday and found I need new arrows as well . But worse than that is my strength has dropped in the last ten years from 45 to 55 Years old. I did get off two shots but couldn't get off a third ! The bldy thing is so hard to draw back ! A bit more practice for that is needed.

    Ten years back I was hitting the bulls eye at 50 meters.
    I have seen this cat a few times in the last year at around 20 meters and a couple of times the dogs have it stuck up a tree at 3 or 4 meters away. I just wasn't ready for it.

    I have inquired about the Aussie made traps that Kidbee recommended in post 6 and will order one tomorrow. They are $150.

    What Ive got to do is get a shooters license. And start off with one trap. And have a go at the cats and Foxes around here .

    Think Ill start building some bird boxes as well . I burn off cuts that would probably make good nesting boxes . Ill go look up some info on that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groverwa View Post
    Dr Karl suggests fitting a bell to all cats, he said to start at 5kg and work from there.

    Years ago we had a naturalist in the west who was going to introduce cat flu to get rid of the feral cats and if you had a pet cat then you would have immunize against the disease. He got crapped on from great heights.

    Way to go !!!! release the KRAKEN !!!
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    Rob, a couple of nest box books you might like are "Nest boxes for wildlife" by Alan and Stacey Franks, also "The Nestbox book" compiled by the Gould group

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony_A View Post
    Cant see how neutering cats will save local wildlife, the cats are eating them not f#*&ing them.
    if there are enough neutered males the female cats have trouble finding a fertile male to mate with.
    Over time the cat population declines as a result of reduced reproduction.

    I know the "neutered" male strategy works for mosquitoes, haven't seen any research for mammals like cats
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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    if there are enough neutered males the female cats have trouble finding a male to fertile mate with.
    Over time the cat population declines as a result of reduced reproduction.

    I know the "neutered" male strategy works for mosquitoes, haven't seen any research for mammals like cats
    Not neutered males but neutering female cats has been modelled and they found that unless 70% are neutered the population will not fall.
    see Modelling the population control of the domestic cat: an example from an island in Brazil

    When my vet BIL lived in a small country town he provided male cat neutering for free.
    He often did procedure on his kitchen table and got quick enough to be able to do the procedure in a couple of minutes
    He also had a cat trap and neutered every male cat he caught over a period of about 7 years and over that period the number of cats he caught did reduce.
    Interesting that he never re-caught any neutered males.

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    I've never heard anyone call a cat stupid. I've got a feral that I'm still trying to catch, it's mastered the art of tipping the trap upside down so that the trapdoor opens. It's done this twice now. So you can call me stupid but not the cat. Anyway I'll peg the trap down next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    if there are enough neutered males the female cats have trouble finding a fertile male to mate with.
    Over time the cat population declines as a result of reduced reproduction.

    I know the "neutered" male strategy works for mosquitoes, haven't seen any research for mammals like cats
    Believe its referred to as the Sterile Insect Technique and it works through a mass release of sterile males to the extent that they inundate the numbers of fertile males in the population. As many female insects generally only mate once, most end up not reproducing. This technique has not been successful in all cases
    Cats are long lived and mate multiple times. Putting a few neutered cats into a large population of fertile cats is unlikely to have any measurable impact. Male cats potentially live for a number of years after being neutered and continue to eat wildlife for that time.
    It appears to me that the whole argument is driven by well meaning people who cant bring themselves to kill feral cats while at the same time ignoring the potential hundreds of native animals that the cat will kill.
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