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7th July 2017, 11:34 PM #106Senior Member
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Big Shed,
Its Tasmania, almost anything is legal down there.
Although the rules are slowly changing to meet Mainland requirements.
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7th July 2017, 11:35 PM #107
Interesting, yet you need 2 council inspections for waterproof floors on level 1!
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8th July 2017, 01:08 AM #108
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8th July 2017, 01:11 AM #109
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8th July 2017, 02:21 PM #110
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8th July 2017, 02:29 PM #111
Yes, I know what you mean and I thought the same. The council need to see the waterproofing where the shower base is going first, then you put in the shower base and connect the plumbing up, then a second inspection for the shower base sealing and shower walls along with the plumbing sealed in the floor. Hope that makes it clear.
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11th July 2017, 08:15 PM #112SENIOR MEMBER
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SB, do you pay these inspectors for every inspection or is there a one off payment ? It's been a long time since I've had a house inspection.
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12th July 2017, 11:47 PM #113
Well it seems council no longer do the inspection since my building permit was issued. The building surveyor now does it all and they don't inspect here in the Launceston Council catchment. I went in to see them yesterday and they told me to see my building surveyor so I did. No inspection, just photos and sign a deceleration to say it complies. So Tasmania, gets away with the poorest standards again but it won't make any difference as I'll do it right as I'm living in the house and not selling it on.
Huon, it is covered in all the fees you pay to get you building permits or in my case the fees I paid to retain my building surveyor at the start of the build.Power corrupts, absolute power means we can run a hell of alot of power tools
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14th July 2017, 08:32 PM #114
I got done now with two coats and all looks good. Next the shower bases before we do the shower walls and waterproof them. Don't you just love the colour.
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15th July 2017, 12:37 AM #115
My mother in laws bathroom is this colour, even the sinks.
I doubt it was ever in style, even in the 60's.
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15th July 2017, 08:49 AM #116
is it just me, or is there something completely absurd about being required to waterproof the floor (and wall studs?) without first covering the insulation?
At the very least, for a shower, I would expect a requirement that the waterproofing extend to above the level of the shower head.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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15th July 2017, 06:09 PM #117Woodworking mechanic
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Ours was the same but it was years ago. They wanted to see the water proof return up the wall (100mm??) before the fibre cement sheeting went in and over it. Not sure if that the same in SB's case.
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15th July 2017, 10:24 PM #118
The following is extracted from current NCC applicable to all states & territories of Australia except SA
Table 3.8.1.1 WATERPROOFING AND WATER RESISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING ELEMENTS IN WET AREAS
Vessels or area where the fixture is installed
Floors and horizontal surfaces
Walls
Wall junctions and joints
Wall / floor junctions
Penetrations
Shower area (enclosed and unenclosed)
With hob
Waterproof floor in shower area (including any hob or step-down).
(a) Waterproof all walls in shower area to a height the greater of— (i) not less than 150 mm above floor substrate; or (ii) not less than 25 mm above maximum retained water level; and (b) Water resistant walls in shower area to not less than 1800 mm above finished floor level of the shower.
Waterproof wall junctions within shower area.
Waterproof wall / floor junctions within shower area.
Waterproof penetrations in shower area.
With step-down
Without hob or step-down
With preformed shower base
N/A
Water resistant walls in shower area to not less than 1800 mm above finished floor level of the shower.
Waterproof wall junctions within shower area.
Waterproof wall / floor junctions within shower area.
Waterproof penetrations in shower area.
NCC 2016 Building Code of Australia -Volume Two Page 311
3.8.1.2
HEALTH AND AMENITY
Table 3.8.1.1 WATERPROOFING AND WATER RESISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING ELEMENTS IN WET AREAS— continued
Vessels or area where the fixture is installed
Floors and horizontal surfaces
Walls
Wall junctions and joints
Wall / floor junctions
Penetrations
Area outside show
er
area
For concrete and compressed fibrecement sheet flooring
Water resistant floor of the room.
N/A
N/A
Waterproof wall / floor junctions
N/A
For timber floors including
particleboard,
Waterproof floor of the
plywood and other
room.
timber based
flooring materials
Areas adjacent to baths
and spas
For concrete and compressed fibrecement sheet flooring
Water resistant floor of the room.
(a) (b)
Water resistant to a height of not less than 150 mm above the vessel, for the extent of the vessel, where the vessel is within 75 mm of a wall. Water resistant all exposed surfaces below vessel lip.
Water resistant junctions within 150 mm above a vessel for the extent of the vessel.
Water resistant wall / floor junctions for the extent of the vessel.
Waterproof tap and spout penetrations where they occur in horizontal surfaces.
For timber floors including particleboard, plywood and other timber based flooring materials
Waterproof floor of the room.
NCC 2016 Building Code of Australia -Volume Two Page 312
3.8.1.2
HEALTH AND AMENITY
Table 3.8.1.1 WATERPROOFING AND WATER RESISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING ELEMENTS IN WET AREAS— continued
Vessels or area where the fixture is installed
Floors and horizontal surfaces
Walls
Wall junctions and joints
Wall / floor junctions
Penetrations
Inserted baths and spas
(a) Waterproof shelf area, incorporating waterstop under the bath lip. (b) No requirement under bath.
(a) Waterproof to not less than 150 mm above lip of bath or spa; and (b) No requirement under bath.
(a) Waterproof junctions within 150 mm above bath or spa; and (b) No requirement under bath.
N/A
Waterproof tap and spout penetrations where they occur in horizontal surfaces.
Note: Where a shower is above a bath or spa, use requirements for shower.
Other areas
Laundries and WCs
Water resistant floor of the room.
N/A
N/A
Waterproof wall / floor junctions.
Walls adjoining other vessels (e.g. sink, basin or laundry tub)
N/A
Water resistant to a height of not less than 150 mm above the vessel, for the extent of the vessel, where the vessel is within 75 mm of a wall.
Waterproof wall junctions where a vessel is fixed to a wall.
N/A
Waterproof tap and spout penetrations where they occur in surfaces required to be waterproof or water resistant.
Note: N/A means not applicable.
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Cheers
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15th July 2017, 11:16 PM #119
Hi Ray
i'm having a little difficulty following the formatting, but does what you've posted mean that if you are using a preformed shower enclosure -- not just a preformed hob -- the wall behind the enclosure should be waterproofed at the same time the floor below the hob is waterproofed?regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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18th July 2017, 02:37 PM #120
No Ian, the idea is to waterproof the floor and the first 150mm up from the floor which is cut into the wall studs before you put in the shower base. Then the shower base is fixed in place and sealed up along all joints, then the wall sheeting is put on and the bottom of the sheeting slightly over laps the shower base and is sealed again at these junctions, then the sheets are waterproofed along with the joints all round. You then get to tile the shower walls to finish the job. This process try's to make sure the shower base is water tight underneath it and along the sides of the base before you put up the shower wall lining. You'll see when I've posted finished pictures.
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