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    Default Assistance with I.D. please

    Near to my home is a stand of roadside small trees up to about
    3-4 metres high. Currently have flowers, have a straggly growth
    and the wood is a very light colour with just a hint of green within.
    They may very well be a self seeding/spreading type as there are
    younger versions growing further up the road. I turned one piece
    (green) just to have a look at it. Pics below show the rough bark,
    flowers and the turned piece with a touch of polish on it.

    Any clues please.

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    I think that's tree lucerne Chamaecytisus palmensis
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    Allan I am sure as is Sue they are of the Wisteria family they should have a strong scent.
    http://www.letsgogardening.co.uk/ima...teria_alba.jpg

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    My first thought was Wisteria - just a glance at the flowers.

    Generally though, if left to their own devices, Wistria tend to send runers along the ground and not grow into small trees as you describe.

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    Looks like lucerne tree to me. i used to grow it around the boundary of my paulownia plantation so the roos would eat them instead of the paulownia

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    here 'tis

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    My first thought was Wisteria - just a glance at the flowers.

    Generally though, if left to their own devices, Wistria tend to send runers along the ground and not grow into small trees as you describe.

    After seeing Mic-d's pics I'll agree looks more like that.

    artme there is a few Tree Wisteria usually white similar looking I know as I have tried Bonsia a couple no success although they do well mine did not.

    Here you go Wisteria floribunda (Japanese wisteria) - Fine Gardening Plant Guide

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    To Michael and Nifty - thank you. You have hit the nail on the
    head. Thanks also to Ray and Sue for contributing.

    Also known as "Tagasaste" it has been planted extensively in
    Western Australia in the 1980s. It has advantages:
    a) Grazing animals, pigs and poultry readily consume the leaves,
    b) Bee forage; one of the first trees to flower in spring,
    c) Timber and firewood, fairly dense wood and is useful for woodturning.
    d) Windbreaks when planted as a close-planted hedge,
    e) Alley cropping; as a nurse crop for frost sensitive trees.

    None of this was known to me - now for some woodturning
    with it providing I can find some dry wood.

    Many thanks,

    Allan
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    Microwave sitting out the front for pick up Allan would you like it ideal for a quick dry of small turning timbers. Don't use Val's

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    I'd say that it wasn't mango.
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    Both Tagassaste and tree Lucerne (different trees) are used in Permaculture for windbreaks, fodder, mulch and all sorts of things, my understanding was that Tag. was grown in cooler climates (Vic/Tas) and that Lucerne grows in the warmer climates (Qld)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjt View Post
    Both Tagassaste and tree Lucerne (different trees) are used in Permaculture for windbreaks, fodder, mulch and all sorts of things, my understanding was that Tag. was grown in cooler climates (Vic/Tas) and that Lucerne grows in the warmer climates (Qld)

    Pete
    Ah, always the problem with common names which is why I gave the latin name too. But by and large tagasaste and tree lucerne do refer to the same tree. Do you know the latin name of the Queensland 'lucerne tree' you are referring to? I can't find anything on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic-d View Post
    Ah, always the problem with common names which is why I gave the latin name too. But by and large tagasaste and tree lucerne do refer to the same tree. Do you know the latin name of the Queensland 'lucerne tree' you are referring to? I can't find anything on it.

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    Looks the same to me...
    Chamaecytisus palmensis
    Tagasaste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This page says it is the same thing.
    Chamaecytisus palmensis, Tagasaste or Tree Lucerne

    This page also says it is the same thing.
    forage tree legumes in tropical agriculture
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    looks like I got it wrong again, it might be the same thing but just called different common names in different places, I might have to have a bit of a read of my book and see what it says, if I can find it


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    And just for those of you out there with some acreage thinking of planting tree lucerne, dont plant it on wetter ground as it draws salt to the surface, other than the fact it can go feral

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