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16th July 2016, 09:25 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Breaking Down Long Boards for Moving
I'm moving to a new city (/country/continent). A couple of months after I arrive, my shipment of woods will arrive as well. In these couple of months, I'm not necessarily banking on any epic bromances that result in the type of friend I'm comfortable asking to help me move wood around. Maybe it will happen, but I don't want to expect it.
So I'm considering breaking down some of my larger boards into shorter sections so that they can, with a bit of "oomph", be moved by one person.
Examples of what I'm talking about include 4.2 x 330 x 100 and 3.9 x 330 x 75 rainforest hardwoods.
I expect my wood will all go into furniture (or smaller) projects, so I'm not anticipating ever using lengths like that (although a QLD Walnut flag pole would be pretty sweet...). Nonetheless, I'm looking for advice on what lengths to keep. I feel like 2.4m or ~8ft is a fairly standard size, from which I could make just about anything, including a book shelf, sideboard, or king sized bed. But with the 4.2 boards I could also go with two 2.1 lengths, which would give me more long material, albeit not quite "king sized bed" (which is actually a precise measurement in the imperial system).
So, any commentary? I'd be interested in any stories with a similar beginning that end with regret, or just anyone's take on the situation.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Cheers,
Luke
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16th July 2016, 09:42 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Multiples plus 10% of the sizes you will mostly use would be my choice. Building a 1.8m table with 600 offcuts is a waste. If they were 800 at least they could be use for the legs or cross members.
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16th July 2016, 10:01 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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I hate cutting things short for the sake of cutting things short. It just doesn't sit well with me because "what if i need a longer length and I was silly enough to cut it in half!!!!????!!!!!" .
I would just suck it up and eat my weeties in the morning and physically man handle them into position. Where there is a will, there is a way. One end on a dolly, drag the other end, engine crane etc etc.
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16th July 2016, 10:37 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Believe me, I don't want to do it. I have some boards that are truly unbelievable, and cutting them in half makes them way more believable. That said, anxiety about the "maybe" aside, have you ever actually found yourself in a position where you were unable to continue a project because you'd cut something too short for storage? Not being contradictory, just genuinely curious.
Cheers,
Luke
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16th July 2016, 10:46 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Can you cut this timber once you arrive if after 'x' days you cant find suitable help ? What about airtasker/gumtree/craigslist to find someone to help you carry it ? How many days do you have to unpack the container ?
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16th July 2016, 10:48 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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These are all unknowns. Presumably, I'll have maybe a week or so to unpack? But it could end up being a couple of days, after which it gets consigned to a warehouse where I have to pay more money. I honestly have no idea, but I'm working with the expectation that I will have somewhat short notice and need to do it very quickly.
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16th July 2016, 11:15 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Jose the yard maintenance guy always knows HoseB with a truck and a crew who'll work cheap for cash.
Don't cut the boards, that's just wrong. If you're that worried you have to do something then rip, don't dock. You can always join them together again that way.
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16th July 2016, 11:24 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I haven't docked anything short for the sake of storage, other than docking 100mm off the length of a rogue piece of timber sticking out the back of my ute which the cops don't appreciate. I doubt you won't have enough material to finish your job. It's mostly to do with how long will the offcuts be once your job's components have been rough cut to length.
by cutting a long length in half just for the sake of it, basically whatever you plan to do with the timber in the future, you will end up with two offcuts. You might get lucky and each offcut is only short because you needed lengths at 2050mm long. But if you needed 800mm lengths for example, you end up with two 500mm offcuts instead of one fantastic 1000mm offcut. The argument would of course be, "i can make stuff out of 500mm lengths", but I'll just say "great, I'd like a tallboy 1000mm wide please"
I probably worked in timber truss plants too long and mastered the art of losing only ~75mm as offcut after cutting several pieces from 6000mm set lengths.
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16th July 2016, 11:26 PM #9
Hi Luke
This is hard. If the situation was mine, I'd try to make the least number of cuts as possible. Whatever can go full length (determined by the size of your container) goes full length. If it cannot, I'd go through every board that is over length and decide where they would best be docked. Look at the figure in the board and decide where it usefully begins and ends, such as if you were going to use it in a book matched panel. The length then does not matter; what matters is that what you have can be used optimally.
Tough decisions.
Travel well.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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17th July 2016, 12:05 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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You can move a fair bit of weight with a wheeled dolly at one end (or in the middle).
I would keep the lengths intact as much as possible, then if you have to cut them, do it when unloading at the destination.
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17th July 2016, 12:19 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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Don't cut them this end but if you are stuck for help when unloading cut them then. Me, I would be seeing if one of the local wood work forums could be of assistance finding someone to help. SMC would seem a logical place to start.
CHRIS
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17th July 2016, 06:01 PM #12
As above, or budget for one or two guys as casuals for a day or two to do the muscle work. Two guys might be better as if they are doing the grunt work, you can be organising the stacks etc to ensure that it ends up stacked properly, first time. That saves you having to work on your own emptying the container and then restacking later to get everything stored properly. I have all my gear from an 1200m3 barn stacked at the moment pending re-erecting the barn at a new site, it is damn difficult unloading everything and getting it stacked how you eventually want it as it comes out of a container or van, if you are the one doing the unloading.
I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.
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17th July 2016, 06:42 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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If you really can't find anybody to help, a hand trolley is quite good at moving long planks. just strap the trolley at one end of your planks so that the handles are directly under the planks and secure the handles to the plank with clamps or ropes you will now be wheel it down a driveway.
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17th July 2016, 07:40 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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Yeah, ok. It's good to know that the entire community backs the devil on my shoulder that says "Be greedy! Take it all!"
I've decided to ship them long. I've already recorded them as such in my official shipping manifest.
You only get one chance at this life. Can't live it in 2.4m lengths.
Thanks for all of the affirmations of exactly what I already knew was the right choice
Cheers,
Luke
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17th July 2016, 10:32 PM #15
Luke
when your wood arrives, go to your local U-Haul outlet or self storage place and read the ads offering moving help.
I'm sure there will be lots of adds offering "strong backs" to help with moving. Where I live the going rate is around $100 to move the contents of a standard garage storage unit.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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