Thread: Where can I buy that special piece of timber

You do have some specialised requirements, I have only heard of a couple of them.
You could try PM to Greg Ward

You are being very specific, and some are protected too, so you are not going to buy them at your local store. Some are available at the wood shows and/or turning suppliers, others are just too rare. You may also want to specify the botanical names, common names can be misleading.

Your best bet is keeping your eye out for old wood-turner/collectors, or their descendents , selling their old stock.

So true and good suggestions. I have updated the list and and also added a note regarding Buloke.

Belah - </SPAN>Casuarina christata</SPAN></SPAN>
Black Oak - </SPAN></SPAN>Casuarina pauper</SPAN></SPAN>
Brown Spearwood - </SPAN>Acacia rhodoxylon</SPAN></SPAN>
Buloke - Allocasuarina luehmannii – nb. </SPAN></SPAN>Buloke is indigenous to the Buloke shire and has a lot of significance, they are protected as they have been classified as endangered by the Federal government and are not harvested for timber. They are a very slow growing can take as long as 100 years to reach maturity. Anyone found to cut a Buloke tree can face very large hefty fines. In addition, the Red Tail Black Cockatoo relies on Buloke trees for their diet and it can take up to 100 years for the trees to produce enough food for these endangered birds. In the Wimmera they have lost 97% of Buloke’s over the last 200 years due to farming, therefore they need to retain and protect them as much as possible.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
Gidgee - </SPAN>Acacia cambagei</SPAN></SPAN>
Gimlet - </SPAN></SPAN>Eucalyptus salubris</SPAN></SPAN>
Snakewood - </SPAN></SPAN>Piratinera guianensis</SPAN></SPAN>
Waddy Wood - </SPAN></SPAN>Acacia peuce</SPAN></SPAN>
Wattle Lakewood - </SPAN></SPAN>Acacia enervia</SPAN></SPAN>

Originally Posted by dai sensei

You are being very specific, and some are protected too, so you are not going to buy them at your local store. Some are available at the wood shows and/or turning suppliers, others are just too rare. You may also want to specify the botanical names, common names can be misleading.

Your best bet is keeping your eye out for old wood-turner/collectors, or their descendents , selling their old stock.

Originally Posted by Speedie

So true and good suggestions. I have updated the list and and also added a note regarding Buloke.

Belah - Casuarina christata
Black Oak - Casuarina pauper
Brown Spearwood - Acacia rhodoxylon
Buloke - Allocasuarina luehmannii – nb. Buloke is indigenous to the Buloke shire and has a lot of significance, they are protected as they have been classified as endangered by the Federal government and are not harvested for timber. They are a very slow growing can take as long as 100 years to reach maturity. Anyone found to cut a Buloke tree can face very large hefty fines. In addition, the Red Tail Black Cockatoo relies on Buloke trees for their diet and it can take up to 100 years for the trees to produce enough food for these endangered birds. In the Wimmera they have lost 97% of Buloke’s over the last 200 years due to farming, therefore they need to retain and protect them as much as possible.
Gidgee - Acacia cambagei
Gimlet - Eucalyptus salubris
Snakewood - Piratinera guianensis
Waddy Wood - Acacia peuce
Wattle Lakewood - Acacia enervia

Speedie,

Welcome to the end of the road. You are reaching the point where your needs cannot be met by traditional vendors. It's time to improvise and get creative. For example: To get "Boco" timber from French Guiana, I contacted the French forestry service there and asked for ideas. When I got the name of a tiny little sawmill, I wrote out what I wanted to say to the sawmill owner (by phone) and used Google to translate it into French. Then, when their answering machine came on, Google read my message into the phone. The next day I tried to call again and the owner picked up the phone, speaking French. I had pre-translated some sentences into French. It was awkward. After a few minutes, he got his wife. She spoke fluent English. I offered them $USD4000/m^3. I have never heard from them since. Doing random stuff like this has allowed me to get contacts for very esoteric timbers from the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Madagascar. I struggled to find some of these contacts for 2-3 years. It's not easy, it's very expensive and it will test your tenacity, patience, creativity and motivation. On the bright side, when you look at the finished product which was made with these timbers, there will be a rich story behind it.


Snakewood - Piratinera guianensis is not correct. The genus is Brosimum.

Originally Posted by Runge

...Snakewood - Piratinera guianensis is not correct. The genus is Brosimum.

This Snakewood is the overseas species Exotic Wood snakewood Has the name changed Runge?

Speedie I thought you were after Australian native species, in which case you would be probably after Acacia xiphophylla, but Strychnos minor is also known as snakewood.

You can try these guys - Snakewood Exotic Wood & Snakewood Lumber | Bell Forest Products
They have some of the other species that you mentioned in your original post.

You can go through the checkout process to get a delivery quote and if your happy with the quote you can then go ahead with your order.


Andy

Originally Posted by dai sensei

This Snakewood is the overseas species Exotic Wood snakewood Has the name changed Runge?

Tropicos | Name - !Piratinera guianensis Aubl.

Originally Posted by dai sensei

This Snakewood is the overseas species Exotic Wood snakewood Has the name changed Runge?

Speedie I thought you were after Australian native species, in which case you would be probably after Acacia xiphophylla, but Strychnos minor is also known as snakewood.

Sorry about that. It was the Acacia xiphophylla that I meant. Too fast with the copy and paste I think.

Originally Posted by Runge

Speedie,

Welcome to the end of the road. You are reaching the point where your needs cannot be met by traditional vendors. It's time to improvise and get creative. For example: To get "Boco" timber from French Guiana, I contacted the French forestry service there and asked for ideas. When I got the name of a tiny little sawmill, I wrote out what I wanted to say to the sawmill owner (by phone) and used Google to translate it into French. Then, when their answering machine came on, Google read my message into the phone. The next day I tried to call again and the owner picked up the phone, speaking French. I had pre-translated some sentences into French. It was awkward. After a few minutes, he got his wife. She spoke fluent English. I offered them $USD4000/m^3. I have never heard from them since. Doing random stuff like this has allowed me to get contacts for very esoteric timbers from the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Madagascar. I struggled to find some of these contacts for 2-3 years. It's not easy, it's very expensive and it will test your tenacity, patience, creativity and motivation. On the bright side, when you look at the finished product which was made with these timbers, there will be a rich story behind it.


Snakewood - Piratinera guianensis is not correct. The genus is Brosimum.

Hi Runge

That read like good fun. I have the time so I think I will change my tactics. You just never know when you will strike it lucky. As for the Snakewood. I put the wrong one it. It should have been - Snakewood Australian - Acacia xiphophylla. sorry for any confusion.

Originally Posted by groeneaj

You can try these guys - Snakewood Exotic Wood & Snakewood Lumber | Bell Forest Products
They have some of the other species that you mentioned in your original post.

You can go through the checkout process to get a delivery quote and if your happy with the quote you can then go ahead with your order.


Andy

Thanks Andy. I will check them out.

Originally Posted by Runge

Tropicos | Name - !Piratinera guianensis Aubl.

Originally Posted by dai sensei

We are now well into the era of phylogenetic analysis using plant DNA. It is causing a significant rethinking of family boundaries, genera composition and species names. Snakewood has been in the genus Brosimum for a long time. Woodies tend not to pay much attention to botanical types. While this is far from complete, if your species is here, you will have the currently accepted name:

World Checklist of Selected Plant Families: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew

Unfortunately, Moraceae has not been finished. However, Ebenaceae and Myrtaceae have been finished - if you're interested. Notice that you can limit by continent or country.

I think you will find Waddy Wood - Acacia peuce is an endangered / threatened species as it only mapped in a few locations. It's also a listed species under the EPBC Act - so it should be very hard to get.
http://www.lrm.nt.gov.au/__data/asse...waddy_wood.pdf
http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiv...-commenced.pdf

Originally Posted by Runge

We are now well into the era of phylogenetic analysis using plant DNA. It is causing a significant rethinking of family boundaries, genera composition and species names. Snakewood has been in the genus Brosimum for a long time. Woodies tend not to pay much attention to botanical types.

Thanks Runge. Woodies web sites are also slow to get updated. Hard enough with the numerous common names without the botanical names changing too