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Thread: Cocus wood (Brya ebenus)
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4th October 2013, 02:26 AM #1Novice
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Cocus wood (Brya ebenus)
To repair a silde of an old instrument I am looking for a small piece of cocus wood or Jamaican ebony.
Do you know where I could find some as it seems very rare.
Phil
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4th October 2013, 10:08 AM #2Senior Member
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Gilmerwood and Tropical Exotic Hardwoods have some small logs in stock, I believe.
https://www.gilmerwood.com/
Tropical Exotic Hardwoods of Latin America, LLC - Cocobolo & Bocote Specialty Shop
I suspect that a good percentage of old exports of "Cocuswood" to Europe were actually Brya buxifolia (from the Dominican Republic) rather than Brya ebenus. The center for genetic diversity of the genus Brya is Cuba.
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4th October 2013, 07:09 PM #3Novice
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Thank you Runge.
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4th October 2013, 07:19 PM #4Novice
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5th October 2013, 02:41 AM #5Senior Member
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I've never seen it (B. buxifolia) but I wouldn't be surprised if they (B. ebenus & B. buxifolia) were nearly identical.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22b...&tbm=bks&tbo=1
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5th October 2013, 07:06 AM #6Novice
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This is the colour:
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5th October 2013, 07:40 AM #7Senior Member
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Phil93,
My point here is that you need to be an informed buyer. In all probability, this is a non-issue. The sellers will have no idea whether they are selling you B. ebenus or B. buxifolia. Of course, they will all adamantly tell you that they have B. ebenus. I bet they look identical. Anyway, the species determination is made by determining the country of origin:
Cuba, Jamaica, Puerto Rico => B. ebenus
Haiti, Dominican Republic => B. buxifolia
Now, what was the origin of the Cocuswood used to make your instrument ????????????????????????
Remember, these are very small trees.
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5th October 2013, 07:57 AM #8Senior Member
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Phil93,
Have you ever talked to ONF ( ONF - Office National des Foręts - Accueil )?
Guyane is an "Overseas Department" of France. I have tried to contact ONF and CIRAD about ways to buy small amounts of timbers from Guyane. It is damn near hopeless. I have also tried here ( accueil - ACCUEIL ) with no luck. There does not appear to be a genuine interest in the timber industry of Guyane to cultivate foreign buyers. My question to you is: What is really going on with the timber industry in Guyane? Thanks!
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f14/ti...=french+guiana
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6th October 2013, 05:33 AM #9Novice
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Dear Runge,
As French but of British origins (my family is from St Helens/Merseyside) they are more than forty years I am wondering what's the problem with those damned froggies! ( And I am 51!).
Poor communication with non-french language countries as French have no idea or will to learn any basic English/American/Australian to communicate with their cousins.
Yes I know since I am a child: "we" sold Joanne of Arc to them (and they "fired" her! ) , won Waterloo, Trafalgar, exiled Bonaparte to St Helens, sent their fleet several thousands feet below the sea-level in Mers-el-Kébir and so on...
What I can do if you wish is to contact them if you like.
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6th October 2013, 07:11 AM #10Senior Member
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6th October 2013, 07:10 PM #11
I guess you are trying to keep consistent, but I would have thought any sound crack free ebony would suffice.
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8th October 2013, 08:22 AM #12
Try contacting a Flute maker like Terry McGee Irish, classical & early flutes by wooden flute maker Terry McGee or Phillipe Bolton Philippe Bolton, Recorder Maker - How a Recorder is Made They should be able to steer you in the right direction.
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12th October 2013, 05:38 AM #13Novice
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It's not a lack of enthusiasm but sense of reality as I see how it goes here...I will be glad to help you!
I found a log of more than 20 lbs so I hope there will be a possibility to turn some parts with.
And one of my mates who is a skilled woodworker said this will be no problem to glue the cracked part definitely!Last edited by dai sensei; 15th October 2013 at 09:15 PM. Reason: deleted misc photo
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15th October 2013, 07:15 PM #14Novice
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Don't know why there is an attached thumbnail that has nothing to do with the photo I posted...
I am waiting for the log and hope this one will be crack free as we are discussing about a very interesting project: a copy of a very old set circa 1815.
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15th October 2013, 09:16 PM #15
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