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    Default Commercial and DIY End Grain Sealers For Green Wood

    Yesterday I scored a boot load of Mango from a tree that had been recently been felled. When I went to stick some of Carbatec's "End Sealer" on the pieces, I found that the almost full six month old batch had gone fairly solid in the container. I note that Carbatec says that the product has a shelf life of only 12 months, so maybe my lot had been sitting around for quite a while.

    So a few questions before I go and buy another container of the Carbatec product. What are the commercially available alternatives to the Carbatec End Sealer?

    A bloke I met at the Maleny woodworking show last year reckoned he uses one of the Lanotec products as a green wood end grain sealer, but he didn't tell me which specific Lanotec product ..... and I haven't found a Lanotec product in the local rural supplies store that looks like it might be suitable. Any ideas ?

    I then wondered whether it would be practical to make your own End Sealer - maybe a blend of Mineral Turps and Paraffin Wax ???? Does anyone make their own End Sealer ?

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    Paint, any sort or colour, plastic or enamel, especially if its free. Gave away buying log sealers, just plaster it on good and thick. Works for me .
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    I also use paint as a sealer and be prepare to add more at a later stage.

    If you are going to use wax then just heat and dip.

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    Get hold of the MSDS for the Carbatec stuff, and see what the solvent is. Might be Kero or Turps based. Anyway, add a bit of the solvent to soften your gluggy stuff to thin it out.

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    I got a 20L drum of the watery waxy stuff almost 20 years ago, I decanted it into 4L plastic paint pots.
    I still have 3 of those pots, one of the lids has failed in the heat so I have it wrapped up in a black plastic bag.
    It is still fine, I used some last month.

    I have used old pait too, that also works fine.
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    Cheap PVA glue works at a pinch for HQ timbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyturns View Post
    Cheap PVA glue works at a pinch for HQ timbers.
    I hadn't thought about PVA but have used paint (timber primer) in the past.

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    Mobilcer, if you can still get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustynail View Post
    Mobilcer, if you can still get it.
    That is the stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustynail View Post
    Mobilcer, if you can still get it.
    Nope! I was looking a couple of years ago and was told at the Mobil depot at Altona that they no longer make it. Caltex make a product called, would you believe, "End Grain Sealer" available in 20kg quantities only, but yes you can use anything to slow down the drying process, paint, pva glue, a mix of turps & polystyrene, paraffin wax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulgabill View Post
    Nope! I was looking a couple of years ago and was told at the Mobil depot at Altona that they no longer make it. Caltex make a product called, would you believe, "End Grain Sealer" available in 20kg quantities only, but yes you can use anything to slow down the drying process, paint, pva glue, a mix of turps & polystyrene, paraffin wax.
    I went halves on a 20l drum with another forumite. Although I can't see it on their web site, this mob used to sell smaller containers of it http://www.woodturningsupplies.com.au/
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    Mobilcer and Caltex End Grain Sealer are basically the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieRoy View Post
    Yesterday I scored a boot load of Mango from a tree that had been recently been felled. When I went to stick some of Carbatec's "End Sealer" on the pieces, I found that the almost full six month old batch had gone fairly solid in the container. I note that Carbatec says that the product has a shelf life of only 12 months, so maybe my lot had been sitting around for quite a while.

    So a few questions before I go and buy another container of the Carbatec product. What are the commercially available alternatives to the Carbatec End Sealer?

    A bloke I met at the Maleny woodworking show last year reckoned he uses one of the Lanotec products as a green wood end grain sealer, but he didn't tell me which specific Lanotec product ..... and I haven't found a Lanotec product in the local rural supplies store that looks like it might be suitable. Any ideas ?

    I then wondered whether it would be practical to make your own End Sealer - maybe a blend of Mineral Turps and Paraffin Wax ???? Does anyone make their own End Sealer ?

    Regards,

    Roy
    Hi Roy...given that the product(caltex end check) is 50% water/50% wax,if it goes a bit 'lumpy' simply add water.The use by date is irrelevant really as i have used it well beyond its suggested shelf life,and its still works fine...MM
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN View Post
    Hi Roy...given that the product(caltex end check) is 50% water/50% wax,if it goes a bit 'lumpy' simply add water.The use by date is irrelevant really as i have used it well beyond its suggested shelf life,and its still works fine...MM
    Try shaking it first. Up here, Anchorseal is also a wax-and-water emulsion, and tends to separate. Shaking restores consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe greiner View Post
    Try shaking it first. Up here, Anchorseal is also a wax-and-water emulsion, and tends to separate. Shaking restores consistency.

    Cheers,
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    Your right Joe,it does tend to separate.Hence the water will then evaporate if the lid is not correctly sealed onto the container.I actually prefer the mix when it is a bit thicker as it is then inclined to stay on the brush better and not drip all over the place ...MM
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