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6th June 2010, 11:03 PM #1
Controlling bluestain mould on newly cut timber
Hi,
I have recently cut some green timber which I am trying to air dry. Blue stain mould has started to appear, especially in this rainy weather.
As these are pale timbers, ( elm, ash and oak) I would like to control this if possible.
I just went out and sprayed them with diluted White King - don't know how good this will be.
Anyone have any suggestions?Cheers,
Steck
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7th June 2010, 09:51 PM #2" making wood good"
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Generally I think if you use the same species for you sticks or racking out this should not happen? Also try and keep them dry as possible
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9th June 2010, 10:11 AM #3
Don't think the sticker species makes any difference Chowchini! But the second bit of advice is spot-on. The fungus is a pretty pervasive species, and will seek you out wherever you try to hide. However, it only operates down to about 25% MC, if I recall correctly, so the idea is to get the 'free' water out as quickly as possible. If you can circulate some dry air through the stack in the initial drying phase, that would help.
Good luck - I've harvested a few pale woods over the years, with varying succes. The last lot I got was from a tall stump of crapiata that had been left standing for several weeks in the weather before I got my hands on it. It is just about completely blue. Fortunately, the fungus lives on the free carbohydtates & doesn't chew up the cell walls like some other fungi do, & doesn't affect structural strength, at least not initially. So my badly stained material is fine for the bench it's going into. In fact, if you look on it as a feature, it can be quite attractive....
Cheers,IW
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10th June 2010, 06:43 PM #4
Thanks for the responses.
The timber is very fresh and moisture content is therefore very high. It is stored outside so it's a bit hard to control the conditions.
The white king has temporarily knocked the bluestain on the head - I don't know how it will go longer term.
I agree - a lot of bluestain can look good. A little can just look dirty!Cheers,
Steck
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12th June 2010, 09:10 PM #5
i cut a lot of hoop pine and blue stain is a big problem with this.
i use a chemical called hylite 80 it removes the starch from the exterior of teh timber stoping the fungas from geting a grip.
blue stain is a fungas that eats the starch in the wood, i think it only starts under 25% mc and will not efect timber unday 18 or sompthing like that.
you need to dry the timber as quickly as possible. with good air flow. a fan blowing threw the stack is usualy enough to stop it sticking. good sized stickers 1" x 1".
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17th June 2010, 02:20 PM #6
Thanks Carl,
I will have to rely on improving airflow, I think.
I have an industrial fan (1m across) in the shed - hope it doesn't blow the timber out the door!Cheers,
Steck
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18th June 2010, 09:48 PM #7
I am told the yanks will pay premium dollars for blue stain might be worth shipping it out...lol
I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.
Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.
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20th June 2010, 07:20 PM #8
I doubt it's blue stain they want Travis - they can get plenty of that themselves. I think it's spalting, the black spidery lines formed by a different fungus, that's more of a prize.
Spalting is much more unpredictable, and it does chew the wood up if you leave it too long, unlike bluestain. The drawer fronts on these nesting tables are spalted & bluestained - the flash has wiped out the colour on the top piece, but it shows up the spalt lines clearly.
Cheers,IW
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