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17th April 2013, 04:08 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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Dave,
When you say round backs do you mean wing splits? In other words, the first cut containing the sap wood?
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17th April 2013, 04:44 PM #17Member
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I'm not quite sure. What I'm referring to is that bit of the tree which is cut off to take it from a round to a square cross section. So the inside is a cut surface, and the outside is the round outside surface of the tree.
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17th April 2013, 06:42 PM #18GOLD MEMBER
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Thats ok, I get your drift. I asked because I assumed heartwood would be required but if the outer sap wood is good for your purpose, we generate any amount of it.
Will be cutting English Elm at Tumut NSW in a month or so if you want some roundbacks. Maybe a bit out of your way though.
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17th April 2013, 06:50 PM #19Member
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Actually, I need to update my details. Now being in the AC of T, Tumut is not so far away.
How thick, at the thin end, would the average roundback be? How long?
And the all important question - how much mullah?
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17th April 2013, 07:00 PM #20Member
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Oh, and I meant to ask - will the trees be felled and milled in a month or so, or are the logs already on the ground? Reason being I'd need to consider, if the trees were already down, if the outside of the trees had started to rot or had borers or splits etc.
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18th April 2013, 12:28 PM #21GOLD MEMBER
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The trees are fresh dead standing. I suspect dutch elm disease. At this stage the timber appears sound, but will know more when cut. Size of wing splits will vary according to log length and diameter. As I am sure you can understand, we try to keep this cut to a minimum as, for us, the purpose is only to remove the sap wood and straighten the log face. To deepen this cut wouldnt be a problem. If you can give me some idea of your requirements we can see what we can do. As for cost, this is normally waste to us unless we deepen the cut. So I guess its what its worth to you.
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18th April 2013, 03:16 PM #22Member
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Realistically, if the wing splits were about an inch thick at the thin end, and at least 1200 mm long, that would be well within the bounds of usability.
Also, wing splits which are as much as possible free from branches and big knots.
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