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Thread: English Elm
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27th October 2008, 10:51 AM #1
English Elm
I have a mate who has a bit of a plantation of what he believes is English Elm on his property. The trees are starting to die off and fall over in storms. He wants to know if it's worth slabbing some of it and putting it away.
I know that elm is used for the seats on windsor chairs and that bits of the right size can be hard to come by. His trees are fairly mature but not that big, say 600mm from what he tells me. To get a full width board for a seat, I suppose you would be needing to take it from near the centre of the tree and you'd want all heart wood?
Does anybody know what the go is with milling these and is there any use for the timber other than windsor chair seats? I think it tends to be a bit hairy and rough to work with."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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27th October 2008, 11:57 AM #2Jim
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I don't know if it grows too quickly over here but English elm is a beautiful wood. Ercol the English furniture manufacturer used it all the time not so long back. Maybe they still do. It was also 'renowned' for coffins and in days gone by was used for wheel arches on trucks.
It was suggested in another thread that it would make good tool handles.
Jim
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27th October 2008, 11:59 AM #3
Elm has interlocked grain which makes it extremely tough and elastic - a feature that lends itself very well to making Windsor seats where only a leg at each corner can support some exceedingly large posteriors.
If your mate is selling some wide boards of elm, I would be very interested in some about 45mm thick..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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27th October 2008, 12:11 PM #4
OK I'll suggest to him that there may be some interest in it, although if it's nice he will want to keep some of it and I'll be there with my box trailer too
The main thing is that, as there is some investment in time involved, we need to make sure he mills them in a way that maximises the useful boards. I guess if he just slabs it at 2" then he'll get some nice wide boards towards the centre of the tree. I assume that for a chair seat you would want them close to quarter sawn, or does it not matter?"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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27th October 2008, 12:36 PM #5
Quartersawing isn't necessary with elm, though having said that, as the wider, most suitable seat boards are taken from the centre of the log, they are inherently quartersawn.
At the very least, I would be keen on 'a couple of seats worth' of seat-sized elm.
For that matter, if anyone else has, or knows of any suitable elm seat boards, I would be very interested in getting some..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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27th October 2008, 01:02 PM #6
It will be a couple of years at least before this stuff is ready. The trees are still standing and then he will probably just air dry them, although I suppose if he had enough demand, it might be worth his while getting some of it kiln dried.
I just want to make sure he doesn't render it useless with his chainsaw"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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27th October 2008, 01:16 PM #7
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1st November 2008, 10:01 AM #8Hewer of wood
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It's a good and under-rated turning timber.
The stuff I've used was fairly open and straight grained; when green it looks striking with cream sapwood and chocolate boardwood, but unfortunately UV turns it all a rather boring deep beige.Cheers, Ern
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1st November 2008, 06:18 PM #9cream sapwood and chocolate boardwood"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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2nd November 2008, 10:25 AM #10Bespoke Furniture Maker
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English Elm
Elm is beautiful, and great to work with. Steam-bends well, finishes well. Have a look at the attached chair of mine. All sections are solid steam-bent elm.
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Get hoarding!
Regards
Ravi
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3rd November 2008, 08:24 AM #11
Nice chair. I'll send him a picture to show him what can be done with English Elm in the right hands.
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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