Thread: Eucalyptus deglupta

Was just looking at that one last night on my new mate Cedrics website. Does this mean you have some or are looking for it?!?!?

unfortunatley not Vern, just noted it as a good one to collect in future and wondering if anyone knows anything about it...i am trying to show restraint at present in terms of what i want but it does look like a Euc with real character...Cedrics site is really good..top pics..

do u guys have any cadagi ?

Originally Posted by reeves

unfortunatley not Vern, just noted it as a good one to collect in future and wondering if anyone knows anything about it...i am trying to show restraint at present in terms of what i want but it does look like a Euc with real character...Cedrics site is really good..top pics..

do u guys have any cadagi ?

If I stumble on to any e.deglupta I'll let you know.
Looks like I'm going to be helping out with Cedrics bark collection - one day I'm going to learn there isn't 48 hours in a day
I've think I've still got a cadaghi bowl blank out there somewhere - it's pretty ordinary stuff so I don't bother grabbing the tons of it that go to the green waste here - would you like a chunk?

Fuel: E. deglupta is used to a limited extent for firewood and charcoal. However, it is normally considered too valuable for firewood. Trees more than 15 years old yield good charcoal. The energy value of the wood is 18 500-21 100 kJ/kg. Fibre: Around the world most E. deglupta plantations are meant for pulp production. The wood makes a strong sulphate pulp that can be bleached to a high brightness. Kraft pulping of E. deglupta wood gives a yield of 50%, and a pulp of good brightness and satisfactory handsheet strength properties. The wood is also used for particleboard, hardboard and wood-wool board. Timber: E. deglupta wood is light to dark brown with a slight lustre, more like coarse-grained rainforest wood than an eucalypt. It is of moderate strength but is not durable. Its density is 390-810 kg/cubic m at 15% mc. Wood of E. deguplta works well with hand and machine tools, although it has a slight tendency to tear out in machining and boring and to slight chipping of sharp edges in turning. The heartwood is usually resistant to preservative treatment, and the sapwood permeable. But in plantation-grown material the uptake of copper-chrome-arsenate salts may be fair. Plantation-grown wood of E. deglupta is significantly easier to impregnate than wood from natural forest. The wood is useful for furniture, moulding, flooring, construction lumber, boat building, veneer and plywood. In Papua New Guinea, E. deglupta is one of the major export timbers. Essential oil: The aromatic oils of E. deglupta have been characterized but they occur in such small quantities (0.2% in the leaves) that they are not of commercial importance.

Services
Reclamation: E. deglupta is capable of colonizing land eroded by landslides and areas of recent volcanic activity. It has been used in reforestation and in enriching planting trials in logged-over forest, where it has shown considerable potential. Ornamental: Due to its very attractive bark and quick growth, the species is frequently planted as an ornamental tree.

Pests and diseases
Termites are the most serious pests in both natural stands and plantations. Young trees are sometimes damaged by the cossid moth and a ring bark borer. The coreid bug causes tip die-back of young trees. In Papua New Guinea and the Philippines, a stem borer and a bark borer (Agrilis spp.) have attacked trees of some provenances. The wood, particularly the sapwood, is liable to termite and lyctus attack and to marine borers. In the nursery, E. deglupta seedlings are susceptible to damping-off. Regular application of a fungicide can control this problem. Heart rot is sometimes found in older trees of E. deglupta but is unlikely to be a problem in trees grown on a short (e.g. 10-year) rotation. Field observations suggest that heart rot is more common in trees growing on less well-drained sites.

just learning more about it

Originally Posted by TTIT

If I stumble on to any e.deglupta I'll let you know.
Looks like I'm going to be helping out with Cedrics bark collection - one day I'm going to learn there isn't 48 hours in a day

haha yes...glad to see yr still going strong on it maate..

I've think I've still got a cadaghi bowl blank out there somewhere - it's pretty ordinary stuff so I don't bother grabbing the tons of it that go to the green waste here - would you like a chunk?

not yet Vern..tho thanks for the offer..will begin real trading agian soon when i haaave more to offer and oplaces to put it all, just regenrtaing my interest and fondling my chunks...have found me bits of Strawberry Jam wood and Waddy wood and a 5kg chunk of Ooline....

seems the DEglupta may be avilable as plantation timbers ""n Papua New Guinea, E. deglupta is one of the major export timbers" from some kinda mainstream supplier but an older growth chunk would probably be better in grain terms..

cheeers

Many years ago, I worked in the timber industry in PNG and can confirm that E Deglupta was a major timber from natural forest and we planted thousands of hectares of plantations. It was an upper middle range, price wise, and was sold mainly for house framing & components and furniture. Non-saw quality was chipped.

Both the tree and the timber were always known as kamarere - I never heard the term rainbow gum or anything else used.

Kamarere is a four syllable word pronounced phonetically - ka-ma-re-re.

Fair Winds

Graeme

I can't find it on this list but here's an oldy but a goody which I thought you may find for intersting: Attachment 214808

thnx Graham Kamaere it iss...Sprinwater..cool doc thnx very informative..here the PDF, its not on the list cos its not native to Australia, tho i am sure the NG tribal folks would have used it

Originally Posted by reeves

thnx Graham Kamarere it is... its not native to Australia, tho i am sure the NG tribal folks would have used it

Interesting question, Reeves.

I never ascertained what timber the nationals used in-the-round for house framing - sometimes bamboo, but that was obvious - and also in-the-round for house stumps, but in the lowland flats where kamarere grew prolifically it is quite possible that young kamarere was utilised.

As far as for uses which involved carving - canoes, sago troughs, barge boards, bowls, buckets, religious artifacts, hohoas (sort of like toomstones), etc (the list is endless) a timber known universally as erima was almost always used. Erima is a bland, white generic hardwood, but is quite soft and easy to carve and it is fairly split resistant. About as soft as radiata.

In several PNG languages the local word for canoe is erima. Presumably, the tree is the ideal timber to make a canoe from, or vice versa.

Erima = Octomeles Sumatrana [the alternative name of elimo is the same word as erima as pronounced in a different dialect - some languages do not have the letter "r"]

Cheers

Graeme

lots of it in use
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/...een_round.html
Mindanao Gum, Kamarere
http://www.worldagroforestry.org/tre...s_deglupta.pdf
https://www.google.com.au/#q=kamarer...w=1292&bih=683
http://www.globalwood.org/trade/godetail.asp?id=60874

most avilable seems pretty generic platation stuff..wonde rif any woddworkers in PNG on here or have oldergrowth stuff collected....must be some

or Hawaii

Mindanao Gum, Kamarere

Originally Posted by reeves

or Hawaii

Mindanao Gum, Kamarere

Interesting, Reeves. I knew that besides PNG kamarere also grew wild in the Solomomon Islands and Indonesia. I think it was the only eucalypt in PNG - not sure tho.

The forest grown kamarere varied greatly on density depending on where it was grown and our silviculturists speculated whether there might be sub-species of it on account of this variability in density and hardness. The milled timber looked rather similar to victorian ash or Tas oak (excluding messmate from the latter group). Very useful timber, but not spectacular.

As far as plantation grown kamarere we were mainly planting, not harvesting. A few thinnings were used for posts and for chipping. "Few" means a few shiploads of 3,000 to 5,000 tonnes.

Fair Winds

Graeme

thanx for yr interesting comments Graeme u sound very knowledgable in this area...I have learnt more about it that we knew and Erima sound useful and interesting...if it was useful then its a fair probablity they would used it for something....gettinga good older gorwth sample might be tricky from here but i guess its always better going there and collecting or finding someone n PNG or where some good stuff may be gained for samples and turning...

I have no knowledge of its timber qualities but as a standalone tree they are quite beautiful. The trunks of the trees are probably one of the best looking in the world. They had a few growing in the botanical gardens in Honolulu when we were there a few years ago.

Stewie