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    Default Help - Australian wood wanted!

    Hi everyone
    This is Paolo, from Italy, from the PZC Chatometry – A standard system to measure wood chatoyance team.
    We are mapping (measuring) wood chatoyance for common wood species around the world. Would you help us with Australian wood species?
    All we need is small samples - at least 120x40x0.6mm (see pics below); anything bigger works too.

    I understand that these wood species are commonly used:
    Silky oak
    Red Cedar
    Queensland Maple
    Australian Blackwood
    Sheoak
    Mango
    Tasmanian Oak
    Jarrah
    Tasmanian Myrtle
    Brown Salwood (not common)
    Maple silkwood (not common)
    Conkerberry (not common)
    Other acacia species?
    Any other...? (not common)

    Ideally, within each wood species we need samples from a few different logs. Therefore, either receiving samples from many different forum members or from members who have samples from different logs would really be helpful!
    This way we would be able to characterize chatoyance for Australian species - some of which are renowned for it - for the first time in history!

    Optionally, if any of you would be so kind as to act as a hub (i.e. everybody ship to the kind mate/lady and then he/she ships just one parcel to Italy), things get even easier.

    We could aim for shipment(s) to us around end of August to give everybody time to search through your inventories.

    Of course, we can pay for shipping!

    Thanks for reading!
    Paolo

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    I got all excited when I saw the (VA) in your location, thinking it was Virginia USA. I could have dropped it off on my next visit. Nah, not coming to Italy.
    But I sure can help with some of the samples you require.
    BTW, Maple Silkwood is very common, nearly as available as Qld Maple.
    Brown Salwood, very common,
    Conkerberry, common,
    Rgds,
    Crocy.

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    Thank you very much, Crocy!
    Yes, Italy is a bit far from Queensland
    Take your time to see what you can find
    If you have pieces from different logs/sources of the same species it is really useful!
    Paolo

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    Hi Paulo, I can help with some samples too. I am away from home at the moment, but will see what I can find next week. Will definitely have some bits of Cooktown Ironwood plus a few others..
    ​Brad.

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    I can do some Blackwood (Acacia melanoxylon), Red Cedar (Toona australis -> Toona ciliata), Silky Oak (Grevillea robusta) and perhaps Buloke/Bull-oak (Allocasuarina luehmannii). I also have some of our local Sheoak/She-oak but don't know its species (Allocasuarina ?)

    Do you have any preferences for grain orientation on the face ... quarter sawn, etc?
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

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    I would be happy to contribute where I can
    Is 40mm the minimum width?
    Log Dog

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    Hi Paulo

    Mate, you know I'm going to send you some wood but I thought I'd just let you know what I can put into a package.

    Silky oak
    Red Cedar
    Queensland Maple
    Australian Blackwood
    Sheoak
    Mango
    Tasmanian Myrtle
    Brown Salwood (extremely common here and stunning timber. Very suceptible to fungal attack and don't really grown much past 30years)
    Swamp Mahogany
    Grey Ironbark
    Forest Red Gum
    Flooded Gum
    Melaleuca
    Crows Ash
    Brigalow (Love to work with this. Smells like violets when worked on)
    Bollywood
    Macadamia
    Cacoa
    Black Bean

    There's probably some more but can't recall at this stage.

    I think that's about it. I'll let you know when I'm preparing it and how much it's going to cost for freight. Naturally all samples will be provided free of charge.

    Cheers

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    Thanks everybody.
    Everything you mentioned is completely unavailable here, so this would really be great!
    There is no preference in tems of flatsawn vs quartersawn.
    And yes, 40mm is the minimum width, but also one single pen blank could work if it's at least 20x20mm (I can cut it in two 20*9 halves and re-glue them into a 40x9 sample).
    So... I really appreciate your efforts
    Paolo

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    Chatometry

    I will see what I can dig up. Some will be duplication of species others have mentioned, but from your posts that is what you want.

    Regards
    Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Some will be duplication of species others have mentioned, but from your posts that is what you want.
    Yes, exactly. This provides statistical significance.
    Thank you
    Paolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatometry View Post
    Yes, exactly. This provides statistical significance.
    Thank you
    Paolo
    Ah, "Paolo:" A kindred spirit.

    Regards
    Paul
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    So what are we doing postage wise ? Will we just all post to someone in Australia, then one package goes over to Italy ? I am happy to cover postage for my samples to a point in Australia if someone handles the eventual postage to Paolo.

    EDIT- has an ideal sample size been worked out ? As I will be cutting bits off larger pieces, I can cut them to any size .
    ​Brad.

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    All we need is small samples - at least 120x40x0.6mm (see pics below); anything bigger works too.
    Paulo has suggested sending all of the pieces to someone in Australia. I've already told him it can't be me as I'm selling and moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post
    EDIT- has an ideal sample size been worked out ? As I will be cutting bits off larger pieces, I can cut them to any size .
    Thanks Brad.
    Our ideal size is 150x40x10mm.
    Paolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post
    So what are we doing postage wise ? Will we just all post to someone in Australia, then one package goes over to Italy ? I am happy to cover postage for my samples to a point in Australia if someone handles the eventual postage to Paolo.
    If nobody is up for the hub proposal, we can go with the "single shipments" option!
    When you have something ready, please get in touch by PM and we'll sort the details...
    Thanks again!
    Paolo

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