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    Default Identification please

    I recently came across a small stand of trees located
    in a creekbed environment. They stand about 50 feet
    high with branches up to 10 inches thick. They all
    grow with a distinctive lean.
    The trunks clump at the base and the lower bark is
    very rugged. Then further up the trunk is a pattern
    which may be easily recognised. The leaves, which
    are normally green but yellowing and dropping at the
    moment can be seen in the attached photos.

    Can anyone identify the trees please and also make
    comment as to whether the wood is suitable for
    turning. There are some yellow and brown tones
    within which appear attractive but the wood is a
    little coarse. Nevertheless a pen I made from it is ok.

    Any comments please.

    Allazn

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    English Elm? It suckers like the one in the first photo.
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    Not sure about English Elm ???

    The leaves dont seem to match an E.E.
    and it doesn't seem heavy enough. This
    stuff is really lightweight.

    Allan.

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    Liquid Amber? The second photo sure looks look mine. The suckers too.
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    Its not English Elm, not so sure about Liquid Amber, I'm leaning towards a poplar of some sort, the bark in the second and third are a match for it.
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    G'Day Allan

    I think I would lean more to liquidamber as poplar has a leaf like the first pic the second is liquidamber

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    Liquid ambers will also shoot like that, but the roots run very close to the top of the ground and gives the trunk a slight buttress. Are there any seed pods nearby? Looks like a site that has been cleared and re-shot.
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    Looks a lot like my liquid amber bark is similar leaf is similar
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    Thank you guys for taking the time to respond
    and please keep your suggestions coming in.

    Dont know if I am on the right track but I thought
    liquidamber leaves would be much larger - just at
    a guess might be say 5 inches long. These are
    only half that size on very mature trees.

    I can pop out there again tomorrow and get close-ups
    of the leaves and give a more accurate sizing.

    Thanks,

    Allan

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    Bark looks more like Liquidamber, but leaves look more like some of the Maples (Acer spp). If there are any seeds around, it would settle the matter immediately - Liquidamber fruits are little balls (about 20-30mm diam) with lots of small spikes sticking out (these are the seed capsules). Acers have winged seeds ('samaras').

    The Liquiamber I've tried was excellent to turn & quite fine-grained, Medium brown colour. Your description didn't sound like that, but there is always variation btween trees, & my sample is small!

    Cheers,
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    It is definitely a Poplar. I would lean towards Populus alba - white poplar, although the leaf shape is not quite right. They are very common in creek beds. I cut down a few large ones the other week ( I am a contractor for melbourne water)

    The puzzling thing is the bark, it isn't usually that dark, although as they mature, the bark gets darker. It could be a cottonwood (Populus deltoides), but that isnt as common as a weed. Not sure of the value of the wood. Nice and light, easy to chip.

    One of the girls at work took off a big slab to be milled, telling me it makes nice furniture timber.

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    Looking at the pictures again, I am definite - White Poplar - I am sure it is used a lot overseas. I am sure some contributors from the USA would have an opinion on its worth as a furniture timber, or for turning.

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    I've wouldn't know the tree if it fell on me but Cotton Poplar / Cottonwood is bloody horrible stuff to work (IMHO ) . VERY furry - a bit like trying to turn MDF - yuuuuk!
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    Thank you everyone for trying to solve the
    puzzle.

    We had a joint woodworking session yesterday
    with the Maroondah Woodturners and the
    popular, (not poplar), opinion was liquidamber.

    Guess I will just stick with that. Thanks again.

    Allan

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    Sorry, I could have included another picture
    showing a piece of the wood and a candleholder
    I made from it.

    Allan

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