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  1. #1
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    Question Is my new merbau deck damaged?? - HELP!

    I have recently had a new merbau deck installed by my brother as he has built several in the past without any problems. Structurally the deck is superb and I cannot fault his workmanship - the main problem I seem to have is with the surface of the merbau.

    The deck itself was finished on Wednesday (8th) and on the same day the Cabot's Deck Clean was applied. On Thursday and Friday, two coats of Cabot's Decking Oil was applied over the merbau.

    Fast forward to Sunday, I was out in the garden with my partner working on the side garden bed next to the decking, and throughout the day we had dust and dirt on the top of the decking. I rinsed and cleaned this with water from the hose and brushed any excess water with a household broom.

    This left small bubbles of water on the surface (due to the oil), but once dried... it would leave a white/grey residue on top of the decking. I again cleaned the deck yesterday (Monday 13th), again soaking the deck with water and then using a scrubbing deck broom to clean these marks off the deck.

    The deck is now free of these water marks, but I am now left with areas on the deck that appear rough in appearance and also rough and coarse to touch. Is this a direct result of how I have been cleaning the deck over the last few days?

    Is it also due to the amount of water placed on top of the deck? And should I be getting a professional in to sand back the surface so it is all smooth and then re-apply the decking oil?

    Are these "rough" areas on the merbau part of the natural wood, or caused by my excessive cleaning?

    I am unsure where to go next - hence why I am here - there are dirt patches on the deck today (as we have a labrador dog who roams around our dirt-patched backyard) and he has left dirty prints over the deck surface.

    Is there a more efficient and harmless way or cleaning dirt from the surface of the merbau? I have tried to brush it off - but it seems like it's baked on!

    Hopefully some of you can take the time to reply - please refer to the photos below for the "roughness" on the deck that I am speaking of. Thank you for reading and I look forward to some replies soon!

    Regards, Shaun (sticks1977)














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    I have just had a large deck done in blackbutt and have been told not to coat it for a few months. Apparently this allows time for sap or whatever it is to leach out.
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    I have done quite alot of batu and merabu decks and yours looks pretty normal to me. The rough areas are not from you scrubbing but look more like tearout that has occured during machining from changes in grain in the timber. Look at the grain around the tearout, you can see it changes. I have found that this is part of the nature timbers milled in Indonesia, they do not seem to grade the timber to the level that occurs over here. Some batches have alot more of it than others.

    There are different views on when to coat decks. I always oil imediately - the same day it is layed as I find it dries out to much if left for the tannins to leach.

    The white spots you mention from the water sitting on the deck occur if the oil is applied to thick and has not completely dried. When oiling do not leave excess oil on the deck. Multiple thin coats allowing it to seep into and penetrate the timber is a better option than flooding it when using decking oil. These generally disappear as the oil dries off totally.

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    Burnsy is right. I machine a range Aussie hardwoods for decking using a Weinig 7 head moulder and those brown patches you refer to are the result of changing grain pattern. To a certain extent they are unavoidable. Without going into the details of grain around knots and other different grain patterns, suffice to say it is the result of natural timber being planed. The grain is not always uniform and running the same way so some lifting or grain tearout occurs. Even with sharp cutters and slow board feed speed it still occurs. You could sand it down but I wouldn't bother.

    Your deck looks great. Sit back and enjoy.

    Cheers
    Steve

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    I'm another who agrees with Burnsy.

    However, I reckon you probably did raise the nap when you scrubbed it down, which is why you see them now but didn't before.

    If it really, really bugs you you can lightly sand down the areas of raised grain and give them a quick coat of oil before re-oiling the whole deck. This'll minimise their visual impact but you won't ever be rid of them entirely. It's just the nature of the wood.

    Or, of course, you can just live with 'em.
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    Default Cleaning New Decks

    I had a similar issue to cleaning the deck, so I asked Orica who supply Intergrain - Ultradeck and Reviva (two of the products I used for my new deck). When a new deck is oiled and you need to clean off mud etc, they advise to use Selleys Sugarsoap but only after a 4 week curing from time of oiling.

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    Stopper is right on this one. even though this is an old thread the info will help those in the future.
    You'll notice that all the rough sectinos are following and knot or a change in grain direction. when the finish was appiled and and the too, it would have raised the grain making these sectinos of tear out even more noticable.

    Only thing to do its to sand them out, but then you have a funny smooth section that will look diffenet.
    It's no trouble at all, unless you slide across your deck with your socks on in the morning...
    Steven Thomas


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