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16th February 2009, 11:53 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Did I pay too much?
Hi all
Not ever having bought timber from anywhere other than Bunnings I felt like babe in the woods when I came across an offer to purchase some undressed Lilac.
I had previously made a coffee table out of Lilac for the missus and now she would like another badge display table to match, so the offer was timely. Additionally, I would like some highlights on the workbench I am building.
So what did I pay? $350 for undressed 2 metre x 300mm x 40mm x 16 lengths. It has been drying for 20 years. I will probably lose about 3-4 metres due to splits and gum veins.
Give me the bad or good news straight up.
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17th February 2009, 12:49 AM #2
2 x 0.3 x 0.04 x 16 = 0.384m3. $350/0.384 = $911.46 per m3.
No idea what lilac is like, but under 1k per cube for timber is pretty bloody good, given that most hardwoods are $3k+ per cube.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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17th February 2009, 12:52 AM #3
That's about a 1/3 of a cube.
Bahhhh Mick got in before me!....................................................................
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17th February 2009, 09:19 AM #4
I don't know what Lilac is like but it doesn't matter. 16 large boards for only $350 is a good deal.
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17th February 2009, 10:22 AM #5
Hi Wongdai
For all ye olde phaarts, the purchase works out at about $2.15 per super foot which is way below normal prices for plantation pine and light tropical hardwoods. Also one would expect to pay a width premium for such wide boards.
Have never even seen lilac as a timber, but swmbo likes lilac in a vase.
Next time I want some timber I will call on you to negotiate.
Cheers
Graeme
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17th February 2009, 11:04 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Excellent. I feel good now.
This is what Lilac looks like dressed up and finished. (This is the table I made for my wife a few years back.)
And a weather station I made out of scrap.
regards
Wongdai
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17th February 2009, 12:41 PM #7AllegedlyJeremy
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When people are selling timber, everyone says "timber is worth what someone will pay for it." Therefore it's logically impossible to pay too much for timber, since as soon as you offer an amount it is worth at least that.
It might be worth more if someone else was willing to pay more but (for whatever reason) the seller sold it to you, but it can't be worth less.
Very interesting grain in that table, I like the matched kidney shapes on the right-hand side.
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17th February 2009, 01:11 PM #8
I don't know about anyone ele, but I'm willing to add a 10% premium on timber that has been air-dried rather than kiln-dried. I find it has less defects.
Given the width of the boards and the price per cube, I'd say you've done very nicely with that deal!
Lovely grain in those pix... somehow I've always thought of Lilac as being a bland wood, a bit like Poplar. I wonder why?
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17th February 2009, 05:40 PM #9
That is nice wood. You should have a satisfied smirk going by now.
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John
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17th February 2009, 06:14 PM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm not game to have a smirk just yet, as I haven't told the missus about spending $350.
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18th February 2009, 10:03 AM #11
Maybe the qustion you should have asked is "Will the missus think I've paid too much?"
Love the feature and colour in that table.Cheers.
Vernon.
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18th February 2009, 10:15 AM #12
Good onya, that's the way
But when the boss does find out apply the above knowledge and you'll be able to let her know how much of a 'saving' you made - just like when they buy shoes or a handbag "on sale".
Air dried boards - premium
Wide boards - premium
Rare timber - premium
As an example green off the saw for fencing/landscaping grade (really ordinary timber, very ordinary) goes for around $700 per cubic metre. As Mick mentioned you have around 1/3 cubic metre - so if ya bought green off the saw cruddy fencing stuff = $233.
If it was structural graded timber you're looking at $1,300 per cube minimum so that'd be $433.
And it just keeps going up and up and up - so you might have spent $350 but you saved much more!!I love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
Allan.