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    Default Physical properties of timber

    Hi all.
    I am trying to find the Compression and Tension properties of timber and need help with it.
    So far, I found a table of physical properties of timber for various classes however, have no idea of the exact meaning, nor I understand if this is related to my requirements.
    Here is my finding:

    Tab. 4.- Comparison of characteristicstrength values for strength classes
    according to EN 338 for load in bendingand in tension with tension
    strength values calculated acc. to eq.(14).


    [N/mm2]
    C 14 C16 C18 C 22 C24 C27 C30 C35 C40
    fm,k 14 16 18 22 24 27 30 35 40
    ft,k 8 10 11 13 14 16 18 21 24
    ft (14) 7 8.3 22.7 9.7 12.5 14 16.3 18.7 27

    My puzzling:
    1) I think but I'm not sure that, N/mm2 divided by 10 should equate approximately to Kg/mm2. Is it correct?
    2) What fm,k; ft,k; and ft (14) stay for?

    Any help would be much appreciated.

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    What do you need this information for?

    The way the "fm,k", "ft,k" etc are written is a bit misleading as the "m, t, k" should be subscripted. i.e. ft,k

    Anyway, a search of the web should reveal all e.g. have a look at page 5 of this document http://211.167.243.154:1012/file/gwb...20338-2003.PDF

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    Now how did I know you would bite on this??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    What do you need this information for?
    Many thanks Bob, that was exactly what I was after.
    These numbers are needed to attempt to make a fiberglass tube equivalent in flexion strength of that of a timber pole of the same diameter. The question is how thick the fg should be.
    Thanks Runge, I had a go to the conversion page. Is there, where I've got the directions for converting N/mm^2 to Kg/mm^2. I only wanted to make sure I got it right.
    Cheers.

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    I thought it might be of interest to someone else so here are the numbers and the meaning of the abbreviations:

    timber propery.png
    4 Symbols and abbreviations
    E0,mean mean characteristic value ofmodulus of elasticity parallel to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    E0,05 5-percentile characteristic valueof modulus of elasticity parallel to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    E90,mean mean characteristic value ofmodulus of elasticity perpendicular to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    fc,0,k characteristic value ofcompressive strength parallel to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    fc,90,k characteristic value ofcompressive strength perpendicular to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    fm,k characteristic value of bendingstrength (in N/mm2
    )
    ft,0,k characteristic value of tensilestrength parallel to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    f t,90,k characteristic value oftensile strength perpendicular to grain (in N/mm2
    )
    fv,k characteristic value of shearstrength (in N/mm2

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    Default Eueler 's wall buckling theorem

    I'd suggest that Euler's wall buckling theorem will the solution, to matching a hollow fiberglass tube properties to those of a timber mast or spar.

    Buckling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Modulus of elasticity and strain to failure ratios (in compression and tension) of each material will dictate the required composition and thickness but also layup of the glass cloth - whether using woven rovings or CSM or combinations of the above.

    F/glass (S2Glass) from memory is somewhere near 6% S to F ratio...

    Some of the light weight high modulus graphite's are closer to 1% or less (0.95%) etc.

    Timber will depend on species and dimensions but Id suggest it might be more than F/Glass..... going on some bamboo fly rods that I've cast compared to fiberglass and carbon graphite fly rods.

    The bamboo are like spaghetti noodles to cast - in comparison to the more modern materials lending me to imagine that the timber S to F ratios MIGHT be similar too or even better possibly than F/glass.

    As always, others mileage will vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    Now how did I know you would bite on this??!!
    Those websites are very useful, even if you're not an engineer. I finally had an excuse to post them.

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