Thread: Does radiata pine last?

Originally Posted by Tiger

Dear all,

. What can be done to pine to make it last?

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Dont use it?

Im not stalking you honest.
I just happen to be the first at the scene of the crime.

Al

Why not? Even with primer and 2 coats of quality exterior paint?

What would you use for the framing for a chook house?

Originally Posted by Tiger

What can be done to pine to make it last?

Store it in a warm, dry shed neatly stacked with plenty of "stickers" so the air gets circulated.

Use the treated stuff.

Cheers,

P

Originally Posted by Tiger

Why not? Even with primer and 2 coats of quality exterior paint?

What would you use for the framing for a chook house?

1. The bugs just loooove to eat Pinus Crapiatus
2. Any harwood will out last PC by about 20 years.
3. Or use tread pine.

You can get native cypress/ murray pine from Bunnies it will last just about for ever, it has sap/resin in it that kills the bugs that try to eat it.
But I think they only sell it as 100x100mm posts, so you will have to mill it.

I had some pine studs laying on the ground for 6 months, when I went to use them they crumbled like wet cardboard.

Al

What type of cheap timber (assuming you don't use pine) would you use for framing for a chook house? It's not the Taj Mahal so what could you get away with?

By the way Bunnies tell me that they probably won't be stocking treated pine next year because of its suspected hazards.

It worries me that chooks tend to peck at things and therefore they would peck at the timber and poison themselves. Also have 3 kids and hate the thought of them becoming sick with the treated pine around, hence this thread.

Well I'd use some second hand hardwood studs, arrissed (knocked the corners off with a planer) to reduce splintering, and I'd coat the bit that goes into or is in contact with the ground with Creosote. (Very nasty stuff, but it works).

I wouldn't paint it or anything. Proper Oz hardwood will last longer than your chooks!

I dont' know what the go is with Creosote, it was taken off the shelves for a few years (like 10) because it was too dangerous to use, but it's back now and burns just like it always did, so make sure you are well protected.

Cheers,

P

Go to M10, which is always cheaper than Bunnies, and price OB ( ordinary builders ) hardwood,
It is cheaper that Pine, treated or otherwise and it will last ages.

Al

Originally Posted by bitingmidge

I dont' know what the go is with Creosote, it was taken off the shelves for a few years (like 10) because it was too dangerous to use, but it's back now and burns just like it always did, so make sure you are well protected.

Cheers,

P

Have they allowed it to be used again?

I thought it was cancerous?

There was a new frame went up many, many years ago in Ballarat, just around the corner from us.
The owners didnt want it to rot apparently, so they coated it in creasote.
We walked past that frame for 10 years and it still smelt.
They never did finish that house.

Al

Thanks, Al must start visiting Mitre 10 more.

Tony, on the way to Mitre10 megamart in Ringwood stop of at Chippy's Timber on Maroondah highway in Ringwood near the tollway :mad: they are building.


That's were I buy my timber and they are a lot cheaper than the hardware supermarkets.


Peter.

See the "Buy, Sell, Swap" section of the board: there is a mob called Golden Cypress (www.goldencypress.com.au??) selling Montery Pine (F7 Class 2 durability) for a pretty good price.
I had a chat to them and its not too bad.
Always wondered what OB stood for.

Here it is

We are currently milling Cypress Macrocarpa up to 6 metres long and in large sections eg. 200x200.
Also some seasoned stocks are available.
Durable, lots of fiddleback and incomparably low shrinkage.
Golden in colour and similar to Kauri.
Attractive pricing too.

Call Rod on (03) 59 63 7253
www.GoldenCypress.com.au

Cheers,
Have fun with the chook house

Thanks, Peter, have used them before, must try them again.

Originally Posted by Clinton1

See the "Buy, Sell, Swap" section of the board: there is a mob called Golden Cypress (www.goldencypress.com.au??) selling Montery Pine (F7 Class 2 durability) for a pretty good price.
I had a chat to them and its not too bad.
Always wondered what OB stood for.

Here it is

Cheers,
Have fun with the chook house

I bought some of this from Rod a few weeks ago, and it's nice stuff, not too hard to work with, and cleans up really quite nicely (see http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ighlight=study)

Cheers!

On a recent contracting job I had, establishing a new vineyard, they were using creosote treated pine from South oz instead of the CCA treated pine so it must be back on the shelves again.