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    Default Sealing timber directly from Sawmill

    Hi all.

    I'm buying some tallowood, Ironbark and Bloodwood lengths from a hardwood sawmill so I'm buying it green and roughcut deliberately to lower costs.

    I thought I'd try this route also to form a relationship for future timber needs so I'm going to give it a go and store it under my house. Under the house is pretty open to the elements in terms of air flow but it should be covered enough from rain.

    I want to seal it and from what I've read a wax based product applied on the ends on the same day of receiving it or the timber being cut is best. It's also a local timber so it will be drying in the same climate. I don't need the timber for about 12 months so should be plenty of time to dry it

    Has anyone used this before
    https://www.timbecon.com.au/end-check-liquid-wax

    And have any thoughts or is this overkill and something from a hardware store will do? I already have ubeaut waxs for my lathe finishes and more general cabinet making (gilligans I think) so not sure if these can be used or something painted is better.

    Anyway it's a few weeks away as they need a bit of lead time, I will also ask them if they have any sealer they can apply for me, I just want to do it in the event they don't.

    Thanks
    Nathan

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    That stuff should be fine but any old paint can be used to save $$. Some also use pva glue thats past its use by date. Over the years I have used end sealer and paint and cant say if one is better than the other.
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    John

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    As you are putting the timber under the house, out of the weather you can use pretty much anything flexable as a sealer. Wax is the best option for sealing large log ends as it goes on nice and thick. Sawn timber won't have as much movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orraloon View Post
    That stuff should be fine but any old paint can be used to save $$. Some also use pva glue thats past its use by date. Over the years I have used end sealer and paint and cant say if one is better than the other.
    Regards
    John
    My experience is proper end sealer is better than PVA glue which is in turn better than old paint. If you are going to use old paint you should use multiple coats, at least 3.
    Wax is about as good as PVA glue

    To get the maximum benefit from any sealant it needs to be applied as soon as possible after the cut is made. If you leave it a few weeks some cracks will be well established and sealing won't help much or at all.

    This means any timber with ends being part of the original log which may have been cut weeks or months ago should really be docked to removed cracks and then sealed after that. Most people don't do that as they hate losing length and are prepare to gamble on the "crack raffle"

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    Used to get a 20L container from Caltex back in the day shared it around woodturners ,still have a couple Ls left after many yrs.
    Johnno

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    Thanks all for the replies. Well if PVA is nearly as effective as wax and timing is crucial then I'll just make sure I pick it up the day it's cut or get them to apply pva the day it's cut before I pick it up.

    It was just down to how well PVA performs vs wax as I have a large container of PVA but no specific wax. So of I don't need to order this specifically from timbecon I'll leave it

    Thanks for the replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Saxton View Post
    Used to get a 20L container from Caltex back in the day shared it around woodturners ,still have a couple Ls left after many yrs.
    I cant do pictures for this post as requested as the 20L drum is long gone,bought about 25yrs ago & started to rust up & was thrown out after decanting the remaining sealer.
    Caltex claimed that it only had a shelf life of a year but what I have left still appears to seal .
    Johnno

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    We used Mobilcer M here in Sydney 30 plus years back.
    That can’t be the correct spelling but it’s what I remember, very thick and waxy.
    I gave the last of mine to a local MS.
    H.
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