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Thread: Searching for Holly
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21st August 2012, 01:16 PM #1New Member
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Searching for Holly
I've been turning for a few years and recently moved from Ireland to Australia...and miss my supply of Holly (Ilex) ...you know, the tree with the prickly green leaves and red berries you see on european christmas cards...it's very unstable so makes wonderful deformations when turned green and very thin, and looks like ivory when dried. If seasoned very carefully it results in a very strong, stable timber. There doesn't appear to be anything native to Australia that's anywhere as near as white...has anyone out there got a solution? PS bleaching is something I've tried but don't really want to go there again. Thanks!
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21st August 2012, 05:45 PM #2
Only suggestions I have is Silver Ash, White Beech or Jacaranda
Trouble is they don't stay white and will yellow over time.
Cheers
Steve
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21st August 2012, 07:08 PM #3
No holly native, but we do have the weed. You gotta befriend a gardener to get it. I have a few steaked out here in the hills. But its mine I say. MINE!.
I think Variegated petosporum is white too. But I haven't turned any of the small amount I scrounged. So I don't know if it distorts so wonderfully as your holly piece in the pic. I have some apple pieces that are a nice creamy ivory color and did a wonderful job of distorting while drying.
Oh. And just remembered white sassafras is pretty good too. And not so sort after as the black heart stuff.anne-maria.
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21st August 2012, 08:39 PM #4
Another possibility is murraya paniculata or mock orange is one of its many names. I cut some down at home the other day and thought to myself it felt like a wood with some potential, so I kept a bit and did a bit of research. It's used as a carving and tool handle wood in Asia where kemuning or kamuning are a couple of its names. I have seen some biggish examples up here but your problem is going to be getting a hold of it. It is a white to yellowish colour.
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21st August 2012, 08:42 PM #5
Holly can be had in Aus, but it is few and far between. Bonewood is what I have used, a bit softer, but just a white. Unfortunately even harder to get than Holly. Others in Aus that are white are Norfolk Island Hibiscus, Tamarind, but also not commonly available.
There are others close to white available, like Ash or Jacaranda. Have a look at TTIT's eggs on his site, All the eggs, you can see the white and lightly coloured timbers.Neil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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21st August 2012, 09:13 PM #6
The Holly ?.
Hi Earl allgrove,
As TL said Variegated Pittosporum is very White, & stays White. I have only Turned Small Stuff, & it is really great to Turn.
Have never Turned Green Pittosporum.
This Tree has a light Green Leaf, with a Crinkly White Edge to it.
Google it & see.
I know where there is Holly, but I wood be dead if I told, & not my place to tell.Regards,
issatree.
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21st August 2012, 11:51 PM #7
Also Cheesewood, though I have used it only as veneers, its certainly very white but difficult to source. Another with potential is Milky Pine but is very soft & often has latex veining.
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21st August 2012, 11:54 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Silver Birch is not too bad but yellows when a finish is applied. Not technically white, but close.
-Scott
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21st August 2012, 11:54 PM #9anne-maria.
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22nd August 2012, 07:47 AM #10New Member
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Thanks everyone! I'll digest all your suggestions... but at a glance it sounds like I should import a box or two of my own stockpile in Ireland that I left with friends... will post my experiences with customs if I have to go down that route. I'm curious, Australia must have one of the largest collections of tree species for any one country in the world! So how does anyone, once they find a timber they REALLY like, manage to source more of it?
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22nd August 2012, 02:05 PM #11
GYO I love using Norfolk Island Hibiscus for my white timber but only had 4 small boards from my fathers collection originally. A forumite from Lakes Entrance has since bought me up a substantial supply but unfortunately it was weathered before he collected it so it has a lot of blue-stain through it.
Solution = GYO - Grow Your Own I grabbed some seeds from a couple of small trees at our local dam and now one tree is about 4" diameter, the other about 3" - should be ready to fell about retirement time
NOTE: Invalid solution in NSW 'cos the bl%%dy bureaucrats won't let you cut it down even if you planted it yourself!!!
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22nd August 2012, 02:40 PM #12
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22nd August 2012, 04:07 PM #14
Couldn't be that simple! When I was getting the hell out of there about 20 years ago, they were testing their new laws on a poor old codger in the small town I lived in. He had planted a Mango tree near his front fence and decided it was doing to much damage to the fence and path once it got to about 8m x8m so he proceeded to cut it down. No residents complained and it had no historical or cultural significance - but council were still taking him to court over it - because they could! .
Don't know the outcome - haven't looked back
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22nd August 2012, 05:10 PM #15Senior Member
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10m ! Hell around here ( Northern Beaches - Sydney ), any tree over 5m needs an arborists report if you want to remove it unless of course it is on their weed-tree list.
Stewie
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