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9th August 2005, 08:48 PM #1Banned
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silky oak
ive been offered a whole silky oak tree, all i have to do is cut it down and take it away. The tree was planted in the late 80's and is approx 1m around at teh base, divides into two almost immediately and is taller than the powerlines. i know silky oak isnt always all useable. i can get access to a milling machine if i go ahead, but it might cost me the pick of the timber.
Can anyone tell me what to look for in the tree to work out if this is worth doing or not? im a bit concerned that the tree, being so young is so big. wouldnt this usually mean that the timber might be a bit soft, having grown so fast?
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Doug
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9th August 2005, 09:39 PM #2
I've never sawn silky oak but I wouldn't worry about the tree being fast growing.
Problem is that a 1 m circumferance isn't a very big log to saw and being a young tree it will be mostly sapwood.
I'd saw it if I had the chance, but realistically you may not recover a lot of wood.
Look at how many straight sections of log you can get out of the tree, and there may be interesting grain where the tree 1st splits.
If it's not going to cost you money and you have the gear to do it safely then give it a go, it's fun if nothing else.
Cheers
Ian
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9th August 2005, 10:36 PM #3
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9th August 2005, 10:47 PM #4Banned
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ok, so how big a diameter does a silky oak log need before its gonna give you agood return? is 2/3 of the diameter pretty standard for sapwood?
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9th August 2005, 11:21 PM #5
completely off topic here but does anyone else have the same problem I'm having with Dougs avatar...it's strangely, well, hypnotic for some reason...
as for the silky oak, its not likely to have much usable timber in it being so young but give it a go anyway to see...there, back on topic!
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10th August 2005, 06:31 PM #6Originally Posted by doug the slug
I had a chat to a mate who is a logger & he reckons..............
Bloody hell can he talk!!
I distilled all the useless stuff out & came up with... Size is not the determining factor in getting a decent hartwood return on a Silky Oak log. It is age He has cut miles of Oak in his day and 35-40 years minimum age is the go.
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11th August 2005, 09:46 AM #7I distilled all the useless stuff out & came up with... Size is not the determining factor in getting a decent hartwood return on a Silky Oak log. It is age He has cut miles of Oak in his day and 35-40 years minimum age is the go.
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All wood in a tree starts out as sapwood, and after a number of years it is changed to heartwood. So there is allways 5 / 10 / 15 (depends on species) growth rings of sapwood around the heartwood. Obviously if a tree is 20 years old and takes 15 years for heartwood to form, only the inner 5 rings will be heart. By the time it's 40 years old, there are 25 rings of heartwood, much better.
I haven't sawn any silky oak so I dont know what the actual time span is to form heartwood, but you get the idea.
Cheers
Ian
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11th August 2005, 10:25 AM #8
Nobody mentioned it also smells like crap!
Lots of people are alergic to the sap and dust fortunately not me.
I did what you you are planning about 12 years ago and it is worth it for what you might learn but usable timber out of it will be a minimum.
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11th August 2005, 08:59 PM #9Originally Posted by MajorPanic
From the SOs I've cut up, it seems pretty small - At a metre round, that's less than 300mm diameter, so there certainly won't be a lot of heart (There'll be about 30- 50mm diameter of useless stuff in the very centre, too). I certainly wouldn't contemplate getting something that small milled. But the only way to know for sure what's in it, is to take a saw and have a look. You might get some useful small leg blanks and such like, which you can easily freehand out of short sections.
Cheers,IW
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11th August 2005, 10:22 PM #10Banned
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ok thanks for all the input, looks like it isnt really viable for about 15 years. ANyone want to know where theres a silky oak tree you can have?
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