Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    11,997

    Default Spalted timber - what a waste!

    A friend rang on Friday to let me know he had some timber for me, quite a bit he said. Knowing he was 'in the business' I jumped in the ute and drove right over.

    As I walked in I saw at least a cube of wood stacked on the floor and my mate grinning away. He said "it's all Spalted, and all yours, you can have the lot!"

    "Wow", I thought, this is huge! (though I've never heard of "Spalted" before, though it looked like a bunch of different timbers). As I started to load it though I realised why it was all mine. Every single piece had some sort of fungus or rot mark on it. There were thin wavy lines all through it, with little white and orange patches too. Since he was quite pleased with this I didn't say anything and loaded it all up. I said thanks very much and took off home.

    The stuff stinks like mildew and filled the garage. I spent all Friday evening and all day Saturday sorting it out. I managed to cut out most of it, and planed away some too, but at the end of the day I had two dusty's full off shavings and a pile of firewood. The only useable timber out of the entire cube was about enough to make six boxes. I don't even know if the rest of the stuff I cut up will burn as firewood since it smells damp.

    Ah well, can't complain, it was free after all...

    Note: this is NOT serious folks - Gotcha!

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Canberra
    Age
    54
    Posts
    914

    Default

    Free wood takes on a new meaning..... in spite of it all make some spectacular boxes that will make you feel better!!

    Pete

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    11,997

    Default

    What a polite group!

    I expected the first response to get this moved to the orange room. Or maybe everyone saw the 'hidden' text at the bottom "Note: this is NOT serious folks - Gotcha!"

    I was given the timber and am still trying to sort out what is useable as it is mostly very thin and dressed on one side only. Some of the spalting is fantastic.

    Any ideas as to what can be done with a spalted flitch about 2-3mm thick x 80mm x 1.5m, but only dressed on one side? I have a number of those but they are too thin to machine.

  5. #4
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Groggy,
    could you square up the edges with a straight edge and a power saw (or router) and then use it as a veneer?

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    11,997

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman Mick
    Groggy,
    could you square up the edges with a straight edge and a power saw (or router) and then use it as a veneer?
    Mick, thanks for the reply. I'll get a pic or two to explain a bit better. Most of it I have cut up as, unfortunately, there simply wasn't enough 'meat' left to work the other side - even with planes. I did try to plane one side flat enough so I could use it as veneer but holes appeared everywhere , even with a LN #62 taking micro shavings.

    One of the other issues I'm having is with the triangular section of most of the pieces. The hypotenuse presents the best grain, but cutting it in that way is problematic. I'm thinking of making an adjustable rest for bandsawing it.

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    11,997

    Default

    Pic #1 is of the typical triangular section I was talking about. If I cut it suarely I maximise the timber but lose the grain effects.

    Pic#2 & 3 is the stack of offcuts, the vertical stack has been through the jointer on two sides.

    Pic#4 is the first attempt at a 15mm slice on the BS. Effective enough but as I mentioned above, by quarter sawing I lose too much of the grain.

    Is it worth recovering do you think? I gave up on the really thin stuff and just cut it for kindling, most of it was paper thin. I've kept anything over 5mm thick.

    How would you cut that much triangular section along the hypotenuse? Any suggestions appreciated.

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    1,652

    Default Spalted Timber - Take Care

    Groggy, there is an interesting article about a woodworker who worked with a lot of spalted timber (prior to his death) in THE TRITON WOODWORKER, May '06 edition - page 14, located under Newsletters on the Triton Woodworkers Club (Holmesglen) web site.
    http://www.tritonwoodworkers.org.au/

    I think you would be wise to take extra precautions when working with spalted timber.

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    11,997

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DPB
    Groggy, there is an interesting article about a woodworker who worked with a lot of spalted timber (prior to his death) in THE TRITON WOODWORKER, May '06 edition - page 14, located under Newsletters on the Triton Woodworkers Club (Holmesglen) web site.
    http://www.tritonwoodworkers.org.au/

    I think you would be wise to take extra precautions when working with spalted timber.
    Thanks Don, read and noted. Although I use a dust collector all the time I'll add a respirator mask for the major cutting I'm doing at the moment.

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Oberon, NSW
    Age
    64
    Posts
    13,373

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy
    Mick, thanks for the reply. I'll get a pic or two to explain a bit better. Most of it I have cut up as, unfortunately, there simply wasn't enough 'meat' left to work the other side - even with planes. I did try to plane one side flat enough so I could use it as veneer but holes appeared everywhere , even with a LN #62 taking micro shavings..
    I gather it'd be the same prob with a thicknessing sander? Bummer.

    Oh, and in case Don didn't make the point: definitely, definitely, definitely wear a good mask when working spalted woods.


    Hmmm... as for the triangular pieces, how deep is your BS fence? Any chance of holding it firmly against the fence to slice veneers/whatever instead of against the table? I've done similar with the occasional odd piece, I don't know that I'd want to process a whole batch that way though.
    Last edited by Skew ChiDAMN!!; 27th August 2006 at 07:22 PM. Reason: Making food good. :rolleyes:
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

    - Andy Mc

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    .
    Posts
    10,482

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!
    definitely wear a food mask when working spalted woods.
    Is it made of a burger and chips (notice I said "chips", not fries)?

    Al

  12. #11
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Groggy,
    Skew's method for resawing the triangular section would be my preferred method. If, for some reason it's not possible then you may have to cut up some pine to make an angled sled to sit it on. You'd probabl need to glue the timber and the sled together to prevent them becoming projectiles.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    11,997

    Default

    Thanks Mick and Skew. I resawed one of them in the quartersawn direction and it was a bit of a PITA because the grain effects are lost. Looking at these pieces, I'll have to run them all over the jointer (hypotenuse face), put the face against the fence, slice on the BS, thickness it then trim to width since goth sides will have a 45deg bevel (more waste).

    Then, joint the newly exposed face of remaining piece and repeat the above. If I cut to 13-14mm I should get a series of usable slices (about 3) and an offcut I can trim to make stickers from. Anything else becomes firewood.

    This is going to take a while methinks...

Similar Threads

  1. bending timber? help me anyone,please
    By steve the jack in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 2nd January 2007, 09:46 PM
  2. What Timber for house frame
    By Pulpo in forum TIMBER
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 18th March 2006, 08:37 PM
  3. timber and slabs
    By dave1963 in forum ANNOUNCEMENTS
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 19th September 2005, 09:37 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •