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Thread: Spalted timber - what a waste!
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26th August 2006, 10:27 PM #1
Spalted timber - what a waste!
A friend rang on Friday to let me know he had some timber for me, quite a bit he said. Knowing he was 'in the business' I jumped in the ute and drove right over.
As I walked in I saw at least a cube of wood stacked on the floor and my mate grinning away. He said "it's all Spalted, and all yours, you can have the lot!"
"Wow", I thought, this is huge! (though I've never heard of "Spalted" before, though it looked like a bunch of different timbers). As I started to load it though I realised why it was all mine. Every single piece had some sort of fungus or rot mark on it. There were thin wavy lines all through it, with little white and orange patches too. Since he was quite pleased with this I didn't say anything and loaded it all up. I said thanks very much and took off home.
The stuff stinks like mildew and filled the garage. I spent all Friday evening and all day Saturday sorting it out. I managed to cut out most of it, and planed away some too, but at the end of the day I had two dusty's full off shavings and a pile of firewood. The only useable timber out of the entire cube was about enough to make six boxes. I don't even know if the rest of the stuff I cut up will burn as firewood since it smells damp.
Ah well, can't complain, it was free after all...
Note: this is NOT serious folks - Gotcha!
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26th August 2006, 10:39 PM #2
Free wood takes on a new meaning..... in spite of it all make some spectacular boxes that will make you feel better!!
Pete
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27th August 2006, 10:47 AM #3
What a polite group!
I expected the first response to get this moved to the orange room. Or maybe everyone saw the 'hidden' text at the bottom "Note: this is NOT serious folks - Gotcha!"
I was given the timber and am still trying to sort out what is useable as it is mostly very thin and dressed on one side only. Some of the spalting is fantastic.
Any ideas as to what can be done with a spalted flitch about 2-3mm thick x 80mm x 1.5m, but only dressed on one side? I have a number of those but they are too thin to machine.
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27th August 2006, 10:57 AM #4
Groggy,
could you square up the edges with a straight edge and a power saw (or router) and then use it as a veneer?
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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27th August 2006, 12:58 PM #5Originally Posted by journeyman Mick
One of the other issues I'm having is with the triangular section of most of the pieces. The hypotenuse presents the best grain, but cutting it in that way is problematic. I'm thinking of making an adjustable rest for bandsawing it.
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27th August 2006, 01:34 PM #6
Pic #1 is of the typical triangular section I was talking about. If I cut it suarely I maximise the timber but lose the grain effects.
Pic#2 & 3 is the stack of offcuts, the vertical stack has been through the jointer on two sides.
Pic#4 is the first attempt at a 15mm slice on the BS. Effective enough but as I mentioned above, by quarter sawing I lose too much of the grain.
Is it worth recovering do you think? I gave up on the really thin stuff and just cut it for kindling, most of it was paper thin. I've kept anything over 5mm thick.
How would you cut that much triangular section along the hypotenuse? Any suggestions appreciated.
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27th August 2006, 02:23 PM #7
Spalted Timber - Take Care
Groggy, there is an interesting article about a woodworker who worked with a lot of spalted timber (prior to his death) in THE TRITON WOODWORKER, May '06 edition - page 14, located under Newsletters on the Triton Woodworkers Club (Holmesglen) web site.
http://www.tritonwoodworkers.org.au/
I think you would be wise to take extra precautions when working with spalted timber.
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27th August 2006, 03:35 PM #8Originally Posted by DPB
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27th August 2006, 06:48 PM #9Originally Posted by Groggy
Oh, and in case Don didn't make the point: definitely, definitely, definitely wear a good mask when working spalted woods.
Hmmm... as for the triangular pieces, how deep is your BS fence? Any chance of holding it firmly against the fence to slice veneers/whatever instead of against the table? I've done similar with the occasional odd piece, I don't know that I'd want to process a whole batch that way though.Last edited by Skew ChiDAMN!!; 27th August 2006 at 07:22 PM. Reason: Making food good. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!
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28th August 2006, 12:13 AM #11
Groggy,
Skew's method for resawing the triangular section would be my preferred method. If, for some reason it's not possible then you may have to cut up some pine to make an angled sled to sit it on. You'd probabl need to glue the timber and the sled together to prevent them becoming projectiles.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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28th August 2006, 06:11 PM #12
Thanks Mick and Skew. I resawed one of them in the quartersawn direction and it was a bit of a PITA because the grain effects are lost. Looking at these pieces, I'll have to run them all over the jointer (hypotenuse face), put the face against the fence, slice on the BS, thickness it then trim to width since goth sides will have a 45deg bevel (more waste).
Then, joint the newly exposed face of remaining piece and repeat the above. If I cut to 13-14mm I should get a series of usable slices (about 3) and an offcut I can trim to make stickers from. Anything else becomes firewood.
This is going to take a while methinks...
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