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16th April 2008, 05:50 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Toy Safe Timber
Hi Everyone,
This is my first post, I stumbled across the forums the other day.
I spent my childhood watching and helping out my stepfather who was a cabinet maker & joiner, but havent picked up a piece of timber since (im 33 now)
I would now like to try my hands at doing some small woodwork projects, but have a few questions.
I want to build some wooden building blocks for my 12mth daughter.... What is the safest timber to use in terms of splinters and chemicals used to treat the timber?
If I wanted to buy recycled timber instead of buying new.... How do I know it hasnt been treated with toxic chemicals?
Lastly... Where would one go to view info on the Australian Safety standards for wooden toys (i.e size of small parts, legal length of string attached to toys)
Any help would be greatly appreciated
A big thank you out to the site owner for putting together such a great resource.
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16th April 2008, 09:01 PM #2
Hi & Welcome to the Woodwork Forums
I think, from memory, that pine is a good timber. If going recycled, I think Hoop pine might be appropriate.
For safe finishes:
Colouring, Ubeaut's Water Dyes or even food colouring may work
and then finish with Shellac.
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16th April 2008, 09:09 PM #3human termite
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at our preschool they use only pine for the blocks, planks,boxes,kids furniture,all shellac painted
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17th April 2008, 08:19 AM #4Intermediate Member
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Thanks for the warm welcome and great info
I have a family member who works on building sites... Does anyone know if the pine used in the framing (6x4) is suitable for kids toys as he can get plenty of offcuts.
Would this timber be treated?
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17th April 2008, 09:14 AM #5
The white pine from building sites is quite suitable, don't use coloured pine as that is often treated.
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17th April 2008, 10:38 AM #6.
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I have 9 brothers and sisters. Dad was a timber faller and we always had loads of cut and uncut woodpiles in our back yard and we all played for hours every day in/on the the piles as soon as we could walk. The uncut pile was the coolest as it had BIG chunky sleeper offcuts and we could build cubbies and trains - awesome! The timber was WA Jarrah, Marri and some Karri. Splintery as all get out - did we get splinters - we sure did. Did we get dirty - yep we got filthy, the wood resin turns skin black. Did we get cuts and bruises - yep. Did it stop us - no - we loved it. Did it hurt us in the long run - no.
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17th April 2008, 11:07 AM #7Intermediate Member
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Hi Echidna & Bob, thanks for the replies
Bob,
Sounds like my childhood LOL
Can anyone else possibly confirm about the pine offcuts agthered from building sites (6x4) ?
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17th April 2008, 02:34 PM #8
much of building pine is treated some have it imprinted along it
as the others have said
oh yeh welcome to the forum good to see another newbie
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17th April 2008, 03:37 PM #9
Welcome to the forum
there is an australian standard for toys - the main part deals with choking hazards, essentially anything which would fit within a film canister is considered a no no.
This link will take you to a brief description of what parents should look for in toys and covers the standards requirements
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.../itemId/719191
I made a lot of blocks for my boys, so much so SWMBO has ruled that I cannot make any more, but I sneak a few in, every now and again. I generally use radiata pine and size it appropriately. I base it on a block set which has it's basic block of 1" x 2" x 2". and then multiples of that size and halves as triangles etc. I've also made a lot using a basic block size of 1" x 1" x 1". I never coloured them as I couldn't be bothered and the boys have hours of fun from them as is. Ubeaut sell colour dyes if you think it's important.
http://www.kembo.com.au/blocks.htm is a manufacturer of a set similiar to that I based mine on.
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17th April 2008, 04:41 PM #10
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17th April 2008, 04:49 PM #11Intermediate Member
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wheelinround,
Hmmm ok.... So if I wanted to be safe I wouldnt use offcust from building sites cause I wont know which is treated and untreated, right?
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17th April 2008, 04:53 PM #12Intermediate Member
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Sawdust maker,
Thanks for the great links
Do you know if I would have much trouble getting recycled radiata pine here in Melbourne?
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17th April 2008, 05:39 PM #13
G'Day Adammc,
I used to build wooden toys firstly for my grand kids, and then started to sell a bit ( quite a bit ) gave it up when I started building Clocks and jewel boxes but still make as requests.
Used recycled radiata pine with contrast parts where needed. Non Toxic acrylic paint like the Schools use, with a coat of shelac.
It got to the stage that some pre-schools and Child care centres started buying it and I got sick of making the same stuff.
Heres some pics.
Have fun
Andrew
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17th April 2008, 05:42 PM #14You've got to risk it to get the biscuit
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nice work andrew
S T I R L O
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17th April 2008, 07:41 PM #15.
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Yeah (twitch), thats (twitch/twitch) right (twitch) - nuffin rong (twitch) wif us (cough cough, hawk, spit, blink-blink, stare . . . . drool . . . . . )
I'm surprise no one has mentioned fruit wood as it has an extremely low splintering rate which is why it is used for tool handles.
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