Thread: 1/4in router bit not held in TRA001

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

What I said was "there's no dedicated replacement male ¼" collet nut for the TRA001." That is a incontrovertible fact, which you would have realised had you read the reply properly.

Your upgrade involves the use of FEMALE collet nuts on a replaced MALE shaft. What's the point of bringing it up, if the parts for the upgrade (which I also did a couple of years ago) are no longer available?

RG

I read your reply properly Ray, no need to be rude.

The point of bringing it up? I saw boxes and boxes of these collets as the factory was being torn down (didn't you notice them?) I guess I'd be asking the question of where the spares went (did someone purchase all the spares? - I sure hope so).

Routers with these collets were going to make it to the Australian market when it all went pear shaped - again why mention it? Oh I don't know - if Triton is dead and buried, just waiting a while longer for their goods to again be available wouldn't be an option would it? And why bother mentioning the solution to this ongoing problem, when I was meant to be focusing only on nuts.

If you are such a goddam expert on all things Triton Ray, I should just keep my opinions to myself (and my blog). Oh, and thanks for the PM, but I think I'll ignore it.

As to the original issue- this has come up time and again, and it came down each time to the addition of tolerances, until the final point of contact was too far out to grip (the router bit a fraction undersized, the hole a fraction over and so on). Changing inserts did work if you sourced one that had the tolerances working in your favour.

There were 2 type of Triton reducer, and I don't know which style of aftermarket one Carbatec sells (probably similar to the older style). Worth tracking down the newer style - it was more effective, and needed less pressure to get the same grip strength. Gifkins also sells one which is good for Triton (although Roger himself has also upgraded his router to the newest Triton collet, but I guess we are not allowed to mention that here anymore).

No one mentioning the old (sort of) solution of aligning up the grooves (particularly the slit) to get the best tightening result?

As to why get 1/4" bits - some of the thin pattern ones (box splitting bit from Carb-i-tool/Gifkins, laser point lettering bit etc) are very thin, and so are manufactured from solid carbide. Very expensive even as 1/4", So much worse (if made at all) when it is 1/2" solid carbide.

Originally Posted by Stuart

No one mentioning the old (sort of) solution of aligning up the grooves (particularly the slit) to get the best tightening result?

Proves my previous point exactly. In post #3 I said "Try the sleeve in a position that the slot on the sleeve lines up with the slot of the male collet nut - that may help a little. ."

Regarding the (obviously not rude, as you said it) "goddam expert" comment, remember who it was that corrected you one day after you said that Triton was no more? And who you thanked for the heads up - in this forum?

Please do not reply further, "Super Moderator"(!), I'm done here.

RG

Jill,

I had similar problems and tried a few different reducers with not much success until I bought the Gifkins reducer - it will be the best $14 you ever spend.

Alan

Thanks to Acco, I have taken delivery of an original Triton reducing collet. I have also purchased the Gifkin unit. These are all shown in the attached photos against the Carb-i- tool unit that would not grip.

On the weekend I hope to clear enough space around the router table to give these babies a whirl, and report back

thanks to all for your comments and help

Jill

I am in the market for the USA style triton 1/2" AND 1/4" COLLETS.Both,if someone has one of each complete to sell me please.I am convinced I need them now
PM or Email me with prices and post

Originally Posted by JillB

Thanks to Acco, I have taken delivery of an original Triton reducing collet. I have also purchased the Gifkin unit. These are all shown in the attached photos against the Carb-i- tool unit that would not grip.

On the weekend I hope to clear enough space around the router table to give these babies a whirl, and report back

thanks to all for your comments and help

Jill

Thanks for the photo Jill - I didn't realise Gifkins had updated their reducing collet to the new design with multiple slits from top and bottom - good to know, and a good looking reducer too.

The Carbatec style pictured is the style Triton and Gifkins used to use, and the one slit, with 2 weakened areas required significant force to cause a good grip on the bit. The new design is much better, and Gifkins at $14 sounds like a good buy.

If anyone is looking to win (for free) 1 US style Triton Router Collet (with both 1/2" and 1/4" attachments), I'm giving one away as part of the 500,000th Stu's Shed visit comp. This will likely go before the end September 09 btw - don't leave entering till 2010!

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

Regarding the (obviously not rude, as you said it) "goddam expert" comment, remember who it was that corrected you one day after you said that Triton was no more? And who you thanked for the heads up - in this forum?

Please do not reply further, "Super Moderator"(!), I'm done here.

RG

Ray is the very epitome of politeness and good manners, and has never been in doubt as to the future of Triton. Here are some examples:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...999#post898999
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...692#post900692
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...919#post900919
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...146#post890146
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...097#post904097
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...794#post888794

[QUOTE=Johncs;1027552]Ray is the very epitome of politeness and good manners,/QUOTE]

However, I prefer this Ray:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...222#post845222

Originally Posted by JillB

Thanks to Acco, I have taken delivery of an original Triton reducing collet. I have also purchased the Gifkin unit. These are all shown in the attached photos against the Carb-i- tool unit that would not grip.

On the weekend I hope to clear enough space around the router table to give these babies a whirl, and report back

thanks to all for your comments and help

Jill

Have you had a chance to test these babies out yet?

Did it solve the problem?