Thread: Differences Triton 1400w & 2400w

Originally Posted by SNAFU

Firstly, thanks for the replies and hopefully i can learn from this site. Secondly, i'd love three routers, but covincing she who must might be a challenge ). I do have a basic/cheap B&D 810w router i use at the moment. I've found the plunge bushings have worn, allowing the base plate to move and not sit at 90*. It's slowly getting worse and starting to sh*t me. I agree the 1400w might not do each idealy,but thats something i have to work around. My main query is the 1400 constructed cheaper or are you only paying for the motor in the 2400

As a note. Went into the local Bunnings and was told they cant supply for about 6 weeks. Ironicly they were the only company to ring me back without my pestering. Is any of the internet company's worth dealing with?

Bunnings Midland has both (as of yesterday). Bunnings Balcatta had both until I relieved them of the big one for about $310 (Colli Malaga had one at $345).

As of yesterday, I have both, and I carefully compared the two bearing this question in mind.

1. The manual for the MOF001 has much more safety information.
2. The obvious differences of size
3. The crank plunge know is a little different, the TRA001 has a twist knob while the MOF001 has a two-position push-knob. Both are in the same handle.
4. The micro plunge adjuster (micro adjuster) for the MOF001accepts an optional table winder, the TRA001 does not.

Item 4 favours the MOF001 in a table, if that is important to you. It might not be.
The increased power of the TRA001 favours it in a table, but that might not be important to you either.

Largely, parts are common to the two. Part of their fence doubles as a base extension for improved control when hand-routing edges. For other routers you might consider making one.

I have the template kit. It includes an extra steel plate that inserts into the base where you can leave it. It makes the diameter of the router a little greater, but facilitates use of templates. If, like me, you don't like the collet hitting your template guides, the Hitachi 40mm template guide fits nicely, but you need the Triton kit for that steel plate.

Unfortunately, the steel plate prevents use of the fence and base extender, it's one or the other.

Originally Posted by Johncs

Largely, parts are common to the two. Part of their fence doubles as a base extension for improved control when hand-routing edges.

There are very few common parts. The extended bases are different to account for the smaller diameter of the MOF001 base - the upright lugs are in different positions. The depth-adjusting turret is probably interchangeable, as are the thumb-lock lever, on/off switch and keyhole bolts. That's about it, everything else is specific - you only need to look at the parts lists or do a comparison here. Even the spring retaining caps and fine adjusters are different.

Originally Posted by Johncs

I have the template kit. It includes an extra steel plate that inserts into the base where you can leave it. It makes the diameter of the router a little greater, but facilitates use of templates. ..... Unfortunately, the steel plate prevents use of the fence and base extender, it's one or the other.

The large metal baseplate is for the TRA001. It fits the MOF001 because the mounting holes for the black base are identical. The MOF001 has its own smaller plate which fits into lugs in the black base. The correct kit, according to Stu as I recall, contains both plates.

If you use the large plate in the MOF001 and leave it in situ, it means that you will be running the router along the metal plate edge in certain operations - not something I'd want to do, as it's not the bottom-most part of the base.

I see no reason why the extended base won't fit when the guidebush plate is in position.

Ray.

PWS has a kit to fit a winder to a tra001. IMO it comes down to weight vs power. The tra is dearer and if you want the above table winding that's more money. Money aside basically the mof is a handier size for freehand and the tra has more grunt. Personally if I only had a tra I'd be happy but careful using it freehand and if I only had a mof I'd feed a little more slowly.

They are both sweet to use.

Originally Posted by Johncs

If, like me, you don't like the collet hitting your template guides, the Hitachi 40mm template guide fits nicely,....

Hi Johncs,

Would you be able to advise where you obtained a Hitachi 40mm Template guide please?

Also how much did you have to pay for it - if you remember, please?

I've been looking for one for quite a while after talking to Template Tom a year or so ago.

Best regards,

Interwood

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

There are very few common parts. The extended bases are different to account for the smaller diameter of the MOF001 base - the upright lugs are in different positions. The depth-adjusting turret is probably interchangeable, as are the thumb-lock lever, on/off switch and keyhole bolts. That's about it, everything else is specific - you only need to look at the parts lists or do a comparison here. Even the spring retaining caps and fine adjusters are different.


The large metal baseplate is for the TRA001. It fits the MOF001 because the mounting holes for the black base are identical. The MOF001 has its own smaller plate which fits into lugs in the black base. The correct kit, according to Stu as I recall, contains both plates.

If you use the large plate in the MOF001 and leave it in situ, it means that you will be running the router along the metal plate edge in certain operations - not something I'd want to do, as it's not the bottom-most part of the base.

I see no reason why the extended base won't fit when the guidebush plate is in position.

Ray.

Here is the parts list Ray might be right, at the time I came to my conclusion I only had the one router, and expected that all those TRA part numbers were parts for the TRA001.

Now I have both, the MOF001's in my temporary table and I've not taken it out to compare things such as the base plate diameter.

My template guide kit is the TGA001 there is only one guide plate and as Ray suggests, it's a <french deleted=""> pest.

It's a shame because the guide plate, I've decided, is the only part of the kit I want to use as all the others obstruct the collet and so the full use of my top-bearinged straight bit which has about 38mm depth of cut.</french>

Originally Posted by Interwood

Hi Johncs,

Would you be able to advise where you obtained a Hitachi 40mm Template guide please?

Also how much did you have to pay for it - if you remember, please?

I've been looking for one for quite a while after talking to Template Tom a year or so ago.

Best regards,

Interwood

I got mine a few days ago at http://www.machinerywarehouse.com.au/

It cost me $40 after I was quoted $49. Apparently it's not in the online catalog, so you need the printed one. In my case, the shopkeeper couldn't see it until I found it; perhaps I found it because I had a better idea of what it was.

2 Weeks ago I went to Bunny's and ordered 2 brushes and the TGA150 template kit for my 1400w triton router.They were busy.I got a phonecall a few days later and was told the prices and I paid with my card over the phone.
Yesterday I get a phone call to say they cant get parts from Triton anymore and for me to try to get them direct from TRITON.Also to get my money back from bunny's I will have to go to Bunnys to get a refund ( I paid over the phone) It is about 1/2 to 3/4 hour round trip.Also I would have to get a lift to get there. How would it be if I bought something over the phone from PERTH.

Originally Posted by Johncs

Here is the parts list Ray might be right, at the time I came to my conclusion I only had the one router, and expected that all those TRA part numbers were parts for the TRA001.

I've had the TRA for over 6 years and the MOF since it was introduced and I've stripped both of them down to their component parts (see here for the TRA and here for the MOF) - there's no "might" about it - I'm right.

Originally Posted by Johncs

Now I have both, the MOF001's in my temporary table and I've not taken it out to compare things such as the base plate diameter.

Look at this photograph.

The base diameters are different, but the phenolic base mounting screws are in identical positions. That's why the TRA metal guidebush plate "overhangs" the smaller MOF router base.

Originally Posted by Johncs

My template guide kit is the TGA001 there is only one guide plate and as Ray suggests, it's a <french deleted=""> pest.</french>

The correct guidebush plate for the MOF is a smaller item altogether and fits between the router base and the thicker phenolic base. Look and you will see two small lugs cut out from the base - that's how the correct guidebush carrier fits. You can see the carrier in the bottom left of the lid of the kit box in the picture below.
<french deleted="">

Originally Posted by Johncs

<french deleted="">It's a shame because the guide plate, I've decided, is the only part of the kit I want to use as all the others obstruct the collet and so the full use of my top-bearinged straight bit which has about 38mm depth of cut.</french>

I don't understand this statement at all. Why would you use a bearing-guided cutter with a guidebush in the first place?

Ray.</french>

Originally Posted by AUSSIE

2 Weeks ago I went to Bunny's and ordered 2 brushes and the TGA150 template kit for my 1400w triton router.They were busy.I got a phonecall a few days later and was told the prices and I paid with my card over the phone.
Yesterday I get a phone call to say they cant get parts from Triton anymore and for me to try to get them direct from TRITON.Also to get my money back from bunny's I will have to go to Bunnys to get a refund ( I paid over the phone) It is about 1/2 to 3/4 hour round trip.Also I would have to get a lift to get there. How would it be if I bought something over the phone from PERTH.

I'm pretty sute Midland has the TGA150 (I've seem ot regularly for some months, before the fuss with GMC started), ask whether it can be sent to your local store.

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

<french deleted="">
I don't understand this statement at all. Why would you use a bearing-guided cutter with a guidebush in the first place?

Ray.</french>

Let me restate the problem. The largest Triton guide is .75" OD. The bit in question is .75". I have several bits that won't fit through the Triton guides, some that would be a close shave.

Originally Posted by Johncs

Let me restate the problem. The largest Triton guide is .75" OD. The bit in question is .75". I have several bits that won't fit through the Triton guides, some that would be a close shave.

I understand the problem. What I don't understand is why you would leave the template guidebush in place - a tweak of two screws and it's detached, leaving a much larger base orifice.

Secondly, why would you need a guidebush in place to operate a bearing-guided cutter, which relies on its own bearing for guidance?

Ray

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

I understand the problem. What I don't understand is why you would leave the template guidebush in place - a tweak of two screws and it's detached, leaving a much larger base orifice.

Secondly, why would you need a guidebush in place to operate a bearing-guided cutter, which relies on its own bearing for guidance?

Ray

On that particular bit, the bearing is a red herring. It's not usable at all with the guide in place, its OD is the same as the OD of Triton's largest guide.

Originally Posted by Johncs

I'm pretty sute Midland has the TGA150 (I've seem ot regularly for some months, before the fuss with GMC started), ask whether it can be sent to your local store.

Thanks John.I finally got one.