Thread: Direction of Triton under GMC

Originally Posted by DavidG

I see. So we have no libel or defamation laws.

Also you are allowed to say what you want but I am not?

Sorry I will not get personal and I am a wanker at times but I think it is a bit rich with all the speculation bordering on libel.
This board has a habit of destroying businesses.
One day some one is going to get sued and they will loose all their lovely toys, home, car, future etc.:eek:

David you can say what you want one thing im curiose with:confused: what bussines has this board destroyed:confused: if you dont want to tell us publicly then by all means PM me, im curious:confused:

Originally Posted by Guitarman

I did already mention I work for Hills Clearance Centre didn't I?????

Yes you did, and we appreciate your insights.

Originally Posted by redwood

well il be bugerd. are you saying its and australian company? i have always been under the impresion it was chinees and i bet the majority of others think the same. if that is the case then this debate has shifted some what.. well for me anyway

Gees Red, where have you been????!!!!!!! That GMC is an Aussie company is very old news! Actually based in Melbourne, but don't hold that against them!

Originally Posted by DavidG

I see. So we have no libel or defamation laws.

Also you are allowed to say what you want but I am not?

Sorry I will not get personal and I am a wanker at times but I think it is a bit rich with all the speculation bordering on libel.
This board has a habit of destroying businesses.
One day some one is going to get sued and they will loose all their lovely toys, home, car, future etc.:eek:

Perhaps re-reading Neil's sticky at the top of each forum might be a good idea. What can and can't be said, and the potential results are already well covered.

To date, I have not been contacted by any company mentioned in the Triton forums complaining about comments made. That being said however, I do not know if the Administrators of the BB have.

I do know that on occasion that members have gone a bit far, and just a quick semi-official note here- if any company does want a thread altered that has gone too far, you just need to ask.

Originally Posted by redwood

........in 20 years in this business iv never come across professional shops that use triton except latley for the router.......

Just goes to prove a significant point. If the PRODUCT has a good standard of quality, and is innovative, then irrespective of brand, it will crack into any discerning market.

If other products of the same brand do not achieve that, then they are not sufficiently different to shift the momentum of that market.

However, in Triton's case, for example, getting one item into a different market does open the door for other products- you are more likely to look at other products by the same company if you have one of their items you are very happy with. The fact that Triton have managed it with the router (and presumably its smaller brother will have no problems there either) does provide an opportunity to find a new market for some other quality power tools that they have.

Was the Triton router actually developed by Triton? I'm sure I've seen a picture of one here somewhere without the Triton badge on it.

Pretty sure it was- but hopefully if any Triton engineers are reading this, they could give us the official word.

Like GMC does, it may be that for certain markets Triton had their machine made in a different colour/under a different name. (I vaguely remember a while back someone found a picture of a Triton router that was a dark green.)

Either that, or the manufacturers are producing the same tool for a different company, providing royalties to Triton for doing so.

Here is the thread where I saw the pic: http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...+router+taiwan

Unfortunately, the link to a Taiwanese site no longer works. The router looked identical (pretty distinctive shape) which lead me to believe that either:

1. The Triton router was based on an existing model
2. It was an existing product that was painted orange
3. Triton did the R&D but allowed someone to use the design under a different label
4. Someone has ripped it off.

All speculation of course, but that's what this thread is all about isn't it?

For what it's worth, the new router was designed by the Triton R&D team at Triton HQ.

I say this with a degree of confidence as I have watched it be developed over time.

Steve

These tools that you all have been talking about, I saw them in 2 Bunnings stores today. Good news huh for Triton fans...

I didn't want to add more fuel to the fire, but I must say I wholeheartedly agreed with DavidG: some of what has been said on these threads recently has been absolutely ridiculous.

Some of the vitriol that has been spewed out at GMC for no rational reason has been some of the most stupid stuff I have ever read on this bulletin board (and that's saying something!). There has been a lot of anger printed on these pages, most of it borne out of complete ignorance. Redwood was a classic - predicting doom and terror, demonising the perils of globalisation and the Chinese in their boardrooms - and he didn’t even know GMC was owned by 2 blokes in Melbourne! But for some of you even that isn’t good enough. For them, GMC obviously does no design work, and all they do is import existing products from China. For god’s sake, grow up and get over it!

It's good that people are passionate about their Triton, but when it starts descending into personal attacks, then it's getting too far. Even the good moderator Stu is resorting to slanging matches with Woody62. You know, maybe he does work for Triton, but is afraid of getting into trouble if discovered leaking company information. And I had to laugh at the one upmanship regarding the new tools specs in a previous thread: “I saw it first, it’s 1400w / No, I saw it first, it’s 1500w”. How immature. Shame on you all!

TritonJapan and Eagle seem to be the only rational voices out there, and I thank them for their insights as to what the future may bring. Personally, I think GMC will be great for Triton.

Here ends my observation of previous events, and now commences my uninformed speculation of future events.

Which brings me to the work centre.
However much we may love our WCs, I just can’t see them continuing to compete against $99 table saws forever. So maybe the WC will be discontinued. But if so, as TJ has pointed out, it will be for rational business reasons, not because of some evil GMC conspiracy to destroy an Aussie icon. Or maybe Triton is working on a top secret “WC3000”, that neither Eagle or Woody62 dare mention. Or maybe GMC will come out with a “Tritonised” table saw with alloy table and induction motor. Or maybe it will continue in some other form (since Stuart has teased that George somehow still owns the factory or something like that). I don’t know.
The only thing I know about the future is that it will be different to today.

John.

P.S. Can you move Holmesglen a bit closer to Williamstown?

Originally Posted by John G

IRedwood was a classic - predicting doom and terror, demonising the perils of globalisation and the Chinese in their boardrooms - and he didn’t even know GMC was owned by 2 blokes in Melbourne!

and i stood corected and admited i was illinformed

This is good.

I think that much of the fear surroinging the GMC takeover is based on what it appears that Redwood had based his comments on.

Like the painful lancing of and inflamed boil, it has not been pretty, but hopefully in the aftermath some of the fear will dissipate.

As for the future of the workcenter, it may benefit from "Globalisation".

I am doing whatever I can with my limited resources to promote it in Japan, where it is suited brilliantly to this market.

Would be extatic if Japanese sales of the workcenter got to the stage that they kept it alive for the Australian market.

An advantage for the Triton range is that the number of R&D Engineers working on new products has increased many fold.

The tooling and development costs will be spread over more markets and so as end users, you should benefit.

The Triton brand will also have access to products that have earned their stripes in other markets but have not been sold in Australia.

It is fairly common to fear change.

I opened this thread to try and share some of the benefits I see for the brand under its new ownership and to try and dispel some of the myths.

Redwood, you have made my day. I think there are many woodworkers who thought that GMC was a Chinese company. Now, there is one less.

Steve

Originally Posted by TritonJapan

This is good.



Redwood, you have made my day. I think there are many woodworkers who thought that GMC was a Chinese company. Now, there is one less.

Steve

Well i for one are glad that gmc is an australian company.

i dont make it a point in life to know what country owns all the tools and machines i have in my collection. two years ago my former boss wouldnt have a bar of gmc saying it was chineese #$&# and it was cheap because it didnt confirm to aust saftey standards becaue of some electrical issue. i took him at face value on that and i didnt realy believe the safty issue but i believed the chineese conection.

so if they are then genuine in promoting triton as their premiunm product i will take a much closer interest and who knows i might even go a buy some of the new gear and other ill informed clowns like me just might do the same

And with those last comments by TritonJapan and JohnG I think it is timely to close this thread. Sorry Stuart.