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Thread: W/C in mobile trolley
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29th April 2010, 10:40 AM #1
W/C in mobile trolley
I thought someone had posted pics of their W/C built into a mobile trolley incorporating storage underneath etc quite some time ago. I can't find it anywhere, could anyone help (I did come across the steel trolley Simso posted and as good as it is, it's not what I had in mind)
Also I have finally purchased a 2hp dust extractor and would like to hook it to the W/C. I have searched the forums and from what I have read, everyone seems to use a chute style system incorporating the bag. I am planning to simply box in the W/C and attach the dust ext hose to the side of this box. Is this concept not used because it's not as successful as the chute (I will ramp the base of the box towards the hose outlet if that helps)?
Air flow, would it be better to seal the box, forcing the air to come in around the saw blade increasing the dust capture, or does this restrict the air flow too much, in which case would some kind of filtered vent opposite be practical??
I'm planning to have a hinged access door which would not have a complete seal thinking this will also aid air flow.
Sorry to rehash an old topic but I'm looking for a bit of guidance from anyone who may have been down this path.
Any advice muchly appreciated
Thanks guys
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30th April 2010, 10:40 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Perhaps you should check out the mobile W/C's they use on building sites.
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30th April 2010, 11:43 AM #3
I welded up a frame from 30mm angle iron and bolted it to the legs of the WC 2000 to hold a shelf.
I don't think I have any pictures, but it works well. For mobility I added the Triton wheelsCheers
Jeremy
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30th April 2010, 04:58 PM #4
Thanks for the reply's, I may not have been clear on what I was going to do. It is currently on the triton wheels and I was hoping to turn it into a cabinet similar to some of the router tables I have seen with useable storage underneath, I thought I had seen a post where someone had done this already, perhaps I was wrong????
My real concern is with the air flow if I try to box in around the chassis, I was simply trying to reduce the amount of saw dust that escapes at the moment. I do have a dust bag attached which does a reasonable job, just trying to improve it.
Cheers
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1st May 2010, 11:29 PM #5
try this link may help
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f187/c...kcentre-86654/
regards michaelenjoy life we are only here a short time not a long time
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2nd May 2010, 10:44 AM #6
Or maybe thisis what you're looking for
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f15/wi...trolley-51010/
Ian
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2nd May 2010, 10:29 PM #7
that was the one i was looking for before finding the other one
regards Michaelenjoy life we are only here a short time not a long time
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3rd May 2010, 05:00 PM #8
Thanks for the replys guys, a lot of good ideas between the two and certainly a big help for designing what I have in mind.
Tx
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3rd May 2010, 05:13 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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There was another from a few years ago, just can't remember who from. It was 2 or 3 Mk3 on a stand.
For the covered in idea you need to have the vented side of the saw outside so it doens;t suck dust through itself. There are a few different posts, just can't think of which.
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5th May 2010, 08:53 PM #10
Hmmm hadn't considered that, how does it go at the moment in the dust collector bag??? Now that you've mentioned it, I notice it is covered in dust, wouldn't this be creating the same situation/problem??? I had looked at Gertz's website and intended to make myself a cowling surrounding the saw based on his designs with a connection for the dust collector at the bottom. Sounds like the saw motor needs to be seperate???
Would the air flow created by a 2 hp DE keep the motor clean??
Tx
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6th May 2010, 12:53 PM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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The dust collector bag is basically a fabric funnel. On the saw vent side (Other end from the blade) there is a sleeve that fits over the motor body leaving the vent open and outside the funnel as you can see in this picture
The motor needs clean air to keep cool.
Here are a few closed in designs. Oddly enough they all make semi rigid connections. I still think the sleeve would be easiest as the saw has to be able to go up and down.
I did a search of the triton forum for "saw closed" and came up with these. There are several other variations in the same search result
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f15/he...a-300-a-70839/
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f15/un...42/index2.html
This is a different version of the trolley
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f15/tr...trolley-45331/
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6th May 2010, 05:54 PM #12
Ah, your a legend, that's the stuff I was looking for. That's helped me out heaps. You've rerally got to get the right key words in those searches
I set myself up a couple of years ago when I retired and something came up meaning I didn't go in the back shed for the past two years and basically never used my gear which is lucky because, like Macklin, I never watched the videos and didn't realise I had fitted the bag incorrectly with the saw motor fully enclosed. Fortunately it's done almost no work and hopefully I haven't stuffed the motor,
I'm keen to start again and want to do it right this time so I'll take some time setting my shed up first. Dust collection is part of my plan and that's helped me out.
Tx again
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7th May 2010, 12:42 AM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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The search is always a bit hit and miss. I usually have no luck, but this time picked the right 2
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8th May 2010, 07:16 PM #14
I watched the Triton video of using the dust bag and it's different to the bag I have. Mine is a two part which has a long closed bag velcroed to the bottom. On the video it's like he has the top part which doesn't have the bottom section but has a connection for a dust collector hose. Mine doesn't have this. Can someone tell me is this a later version??? This looks like it would collect a lot more dust than mine does now???? Are they still available??
Tx
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10th May 2010, 01:12 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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The one in the picture is the Current (before Triton went belly up at least) It uses gravity to work.
I have the original older version which is more a black plastic material and has a funnel at the bottom that connects into the vacuum hose. It was never that successful to collect dust when having a hose under and over the table (1/2 suction at each). I now just have a bucket under the funnel and a single hose on top. I just need to give the bag a light shake every now and then
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