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  1. #1
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    Default MOF001 issue and question

    Hi All,

    I bought an MOF001K in January this year to replace my ancient Stanley. I've been very happy with it in the time since and have been mostly using it inverted in my home made table.

    Yesterday i took it out to do some hand work with it and noticed some concerning sparks around the brushes when i start it up. Have a look at the attached video below to see what i mean. It sparks up quite badly when you first switch it on and then continues with smaller flashes as it runs. At one stage the speed of the router seemed to go up and down (without touching the speed setting) as if the brushes didn't have clean contact with the motor. I took out the brushes and checked them out but there didn't appear to be any issue there.

    Also i was under the impression that the MOF001 is meant to have a slow start feature which as you can see in the video it does not. Not sure if this is normal or just a problem with mine in particular. Does anyone else have one of these? Does yours start up slowly as with other brands/models?

    FYI i've written to Triton today explaining the above and I'll see what the come back with. I'll try and update the thread when they get back to me.

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    That sparking in the clip looks a bit severe. I just went out and tried mine with a few starts, and even in low light I could hardly see any sparking inside the casing. You mentioned that you thought the speed fluctuated at one stage. This seems to be a problem with this model. Mine started doing that after very little use, but unfortunately it was out of warrantee by then (should have used it more when I first got it). I have spoken to a couple of Kinchrome reps (the agents for Triton) at wood shows, and they won't seem to acknowledge there is a problem. I have tried blowing out around the speed sensor as suggested by some people, but the doesn't seem to have any real impact. Sometimes it behaves well, and other times it is up and down all the time.
    As for the soft start, it does start fairly quickly, but not so fast that it tries to rip it out of your hands. Your starting speed looks about the same as my router.
    Apart from the speed issue, mine has been a great router which spends all its time in the router table.
    I will be interested to see how you go as I was hoping the newer models would be better.
    Dallas

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    Looks to me like the soft start is doing its job, as there is no torque feedback when starting, in spite of the very light holding pressure when you start it. The sparking does look a little unusual - have you examined the carbon brushes? It's possible one may be cracked, so I'd have a look. WARNING: when replacing the brushes, DO NOT over-tighten the brush cap, as they are not the most robust design.

    Ray

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    Exclamation Also the TRA001...

    My old TRA001 has also started running with the "speed variation syndrome".

    I checked the brushes and also took the router to a repair shop to get them to check the router.

    They could not find any problem.

    Still runs with the variation when used inverted in the table. ( That is how it is used 100% of the time).

    No one seems to know what is causing this issue.
    James,

    Sydney, Australia

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    My TRA001 started making the unmistakable sound of flashing brushes under the table (I am a sparky) so I checked them out, plenty of length, enough tension, so cleaned it out and reinstalled it. It was OK for two starts and then did it again so I replaced the brushes with new ones and that fixed it. This did not quite make sense so I had a good look and found the brushes were worn on the sides and the only thing I can think is they were rocking enough to jam in the holders.
    Don't know if that's any help.
    Regards
    Hugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Duke View Post
    My TRA001 started making the unmistakable sound of flashing brushes under the table (I am a sparky) so I checked them out, plenty of length, enough tension, so cleaned it out and reinstalled it. It was OK for two starts and then did it again so I replaced the brushes with new ones and that fixed it. This did not quite make sense so I had a good look and found the brushes were worn on the sides and the only thing I can think is they were rocking enough to jam in the holders.
    Don't know if that's any help.
    Regards
    That's worth a try, Hugh...
    James,

    Sydney, Australia

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    Default No help from Triton

    Thanks for all the replies everyone.

    It's been almost two weeks since I sent the original request for help to Triton. Seems they don't have anything to say on the matter. That's fine I will file that away in my brand opinion file and stay clear of them in future. There are plenty of good brands out there as alternate options.

    I think I will have to try the new brush solution even though the ones in it now are 6 months old and have probably only done a couple hours of work all up. I didn't really want to dismantle the thing but it seems like a good cleanout on the brush contact points on the rotor(is that the right word for it?) might help also. They look quite fowled which probably isn't helped by all the sparking.

    Could it be that the brushes are just rubbish quality from factory? contaminated somehow?

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    I had this problem and cleared it by cleaning in between the rotor segments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrism3 View Post
    I had this problem and cleared it by cleaning in between the rotor segments.
    Thanks for your reply. Did you have to take the whole unit apart or it there an easier way to get at the rotor? Also what did you use to clean it, metho?

    Cheers
    mat

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    Yes, I followed RayintheUk's instructions for dismantling.
    I don't recall if I used a liquid cleaner - I did use a brass wire brush to clean between the segments, and probably an eraser to clean the segments. I don't see a problem with metho or isopropyl cleaner.
    Chris

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