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  1. #1
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    Question Ruler Arms Scale Wearout

    Has anyone had a problem with the scales on the ruler arms of the fence wearing out?

    I have only used the workbench for a few hours, ripping MDF sheets and some Ash, but the scales have sections missing already. You can scrape the black paint off very easily with a finger nail.

    I have already got onto Triton and they sent me a new set of arms in quick time. but the replacement arms seem to be the same. I have noticed that they do not have the same laquer finish as the rest of the WorkCentre, which seems to be nigh impossible to scrape off the black paint.

    To have this happen to one of the fundamental parts of the bench in a very short time is very poor. Obviously my £300 investment will become useless when the scales eventually get larger portions missing.

    I am open to suggestions to what to treat them with to cover them with a hard wearing film.

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    What about clear nail varnish?
    It drys in no time flat, and is very hard.
    It seems a bit poor to wear off so quickly.

    Cheers, Al

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    That doesn't sound right to me, are your scales sitting up too high perhaps? Mine don't get rubbed by the wood at all because they are fractionally lower than the table.
    I wonder if the galvanised strip underneath needs looking at?
    I'm schizophrenic and so am I

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    It is not really anything to do with the calibration of the table. More to do with that the arms seem to be missing a finish.

    As I said in the original post, you can scrape the black paint off with your finger nail, and I mean with only the slightest bit of effort.
    If I can do that then imagine what is like with wood sliding over it.

    I must say that I am more than a bit dissappointed with the general quality of quite a few Triton items that I have bought.
    In the post entitled 'Vibrating Triton Saw' I eventually had to get the second Triton saw that replaced another saw with the same vibration, fitted with a new gear box and ball race. That was two saws in a row that had this problem. The saw blade also had a part to play in the problem.

    And now I have two sets of ruler scales where the ruler wears off with as much as a light handling.

    There are a few other smaller issues with the WorkBench that are tolerable, in that I can still do my work, but the former mentioned problems are inexcusable. Triton seriously need to look at their quality control if this is the standard they produce, and it is not as if the gear is cheap!

    The router table and planer attachment are great though.

    Sorry folks...but I expect a lot more after spending £800.

    Cheers,
    Ray.

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    I took it to mean that as you were pushing your wood across the table you were experiencing the scales rubbing off as well, my mistake.
    It shouldn't rub off that easily, well they don't on mine at least so I would recommend getting another set.
    Tell Triton to check it out for the problem you describe before they send it too!
    I'm schizophrenic and so am I

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    I checked mine out today and I find that the tracks that the scales slide in are actually about 1.5 to 2mm below the level of the table top and the scales them selves would be a hairs width below the top of the tracks.

    On that basis I can't see how any timber being pushed over the scales could possibly wear the scales. At the worst it would wear the paint off the outside edge of the tracks as you perhaps pivot the timber over the edge.

    When adjusting the scales I don't see how you would have to touch them so as to wear the paint off and apart from that why would would you have a go at scratching at the paint.

    The only thing I can think of is that the tracks are sitting above the table top so the problem would not be so much the paint on the scales but incorrect alignment of the table to the tracks.

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    Sorry folks...but I expect a lot more after spending £800.[/B]
    What about returning it? (if possible)

    I think you can buy a Jet supersaw (without a sliding table) for around £1000. Do you think a Jet table saw is only £200 better than a Triton?

    Seriously mate think about it. You've got nothing to lose.

    I know exactly how you feel.

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    My Triton is 5 years old. It's been used on building sites. It's been thrown around, used as a saw horse, used as a work bench. I've stood on it, accidentally cut the edge of it with an angle grinder, knocked chips out of the paintwork on the top. It's been left out in the rain, dropped, knocked over, and otherwise mis-used and abused.

    After all that, the markings on the rules are a bit faded and even obliterated in places. I can still read them well enough to set it though. Maybe they've got a bad batch. Contact them and see what they say about it. You'll find them very helpful if you give them the chance.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Darren, sounds just like mine! Worst case was when I left it set up and went to the other end of the job for a few hours. The painters had stained a whole pack of 1" x 1" rough sawn trims and put them on my triton and extension table - about 5M3 of oregon!:mad:

    Mick

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    Silent C,

    Your case underlines my point.
    I have only had my WorkCentre for a few months and have only ever inserted and removed the fence (as you do), cut up about a dozen sheets of MDF and a few bits of ASH.
    I carefully store the fence away and never hash it and I am always under cover.

    What you do with yours is surely what the WorkCentre is designed for, some serious everyday building site use, and after 5 years one can expect it to be a bit frayed around the edges.

    I was maybe a bit unclear when I said that I have slid some wood over it. My ruler arms are perfectly set under the work just as some of you have pointed out. But sawdust, wood chippings will maybe be getting under the work piece as I feed it through and will be scraping over the arms.
    The point I was really making is that I am only using the bench in the normal way and my rulers were missing some markings after only doing this simple thing.

    I will also remind you that you can scrape the paint off with a finger nail with absolutely no effort. not a chisel or a screwdriver or a bit of sandpaper.

    Something is clearly wrong, and I do not mean to make this post seem like an anti- Triton rant, because I still have respect for what Triton have produced.

    I just think that either that I have been unlucky enough to get a bad batch of faulty goods like all good manufacturers will put out sometimes, or that just maybe that the quality control leaves something to be desired.

    Anyway, I have treated them with some clear laquer and it seems to have done the trick.

    Cheers,
    Ray.

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    I scratched quite hard on mine to rub one of the index's off, it only partially removed it. You might be unfortunate in getting 2 of a bad run maybe, it happens, especially Friday arvo knockoff jobs.
    Seriously, you should inform Triton what you have experienced so they can look into it, it maybe something that escaped their quality control or something and might appreciate knowing about it. Glad to hear the laquer has fixed it up, might be worth chucking some on mine so it lasts even longer too.
    I'm schizophrenic and so am I

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    Triton just traded me new for old for this exact reason.
    Or did they just give em to me. Sorry can't remember.


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    My new workcentre has this problem too. I went to a demo at the local DIY store and mentioned it. He gave me the Triton phone number, and now I have a new set and they appear to be a lot better printed . At no exrta cost! Must have had a bad printing day.

    Would have thought nothing of it if I hadn't have read this thread. Am very impressed at the after sales support.

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    Agreed!

    With Triton you just gotta think to ask.
    i.e. "If you don't ask, you don't get."

    Triton spare parts dept. people are great.
    I'm often surprised at how well they have been treating me.
    Trading me new for old. Giving me new for reporting/asking about worn/problem parts. And offering factory seconds.


    I'd like to give additional credit to this forum for some of the after sales support as well.

    I forget sometimes that this forum is here and has heaps and heaps of answers to Triton related questions.

    And further forget that this bulletin board has an excellent seach engine.

    Very seldom do I find a new question here.
    But always enjoy the different approaches in the new answers posted by other members.

    The jigs forum is a great read. Especially the jigs designed for the Triton.

    Just wish I had more time for the Plans forum as I've got 3 projects on the go and about 30 waiting to be started.

    I've posted about 600 times in total (under BarrySumpter and now under BarryGSumpter) with the entent of leaving a reference to other interesed parties.

    Long Live Triton, Woodworking Australia, and the Woodwork Forums!

    :eek: :mad: :confused:
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC
    My Triton is 5 years old. It's been used on building sites. It's been thrown around, used as a saw horse, used as a work bench. I've stood on it, accidentally cut the edge of it with an angle grinder, knocked chips out of the paintwork on the top. It's been left out in the rain, dropped, knocked over, and otherwise mis-used and abused.

    .
    Hell.....I don't even treat my wife that bad.

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