Thread: Triton Orange

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Went into the paint department of local M10 and said I wanted some orange paint to repaint my Triton Mk 3 workbench. Paint guy went to hardware, borrowed a Triton piece, scanned it with his paint analyser gadget and announced... "Sorry, sir, that is a proprietary colour and the computer will not tell me how to mix it. We are not allowed to sell that colour."
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How can the colour orange belong to any one?

Cheers

Graeme

Never heard that one! IIRC, Triton orange was Telecom Gold, just ask for that.
If that story was correct, how would you ever re-finish your John Deere tractor (John Deere Gold and Green) or your Kubota Tractor (Kubota Orange). I could go on with Caterpillar Yellow, Chamberlain Yellow, Massey Ferguson Grey...............the list goes on.

If M10 can't/won't make it, go to your local auto refinishing store that sells the likes of Protec auto refinishing enamel and they will make it for you.

Graeme,
According to the Triton web site:
http://www.triton.com.au/faq.php?pid=1

Question: Is touch-up paint available for Triton products?

Answer: No, the paint finish on Triton products is an epoxy powdercoat, oven cured. A close match can often be achieved by your local paint supplier.
Colour matching has been performed by Bristol Paints. Your local Bristol Paints outlet can provide the Triton colour by supplying them with the following information:
Bristol Supreme Interior/Exterior Enamel Gloss - 0.5L
Base C
XK 55.00
XBPU 161.00
XF 5.00
XG 41.00

Hope this helps

Ian

Thanks, guys

With auto enamel and colour mix info I will probably get a better result.

I subsequently talked to a lawyer, friends wife, and she said that it was a common occurence and that companies commonly copyrighted colours of their brands.
* Cadbury sued Darrel Lees over use of purple packaging.
* Veuve Cliquot sues routinely over wine label colours
* Only caterpillar makes yellow/orange bulldozers.
* Only yellow cab taxis are yellow, etc

Cheers

Graeme

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

* Only yellow cab taxis are yellow, etc

Cheers

Graeme

In Vic all taxis are yellow not just the yellow cabs, one of Jeff Kennets innovations.


Peter.

You cannot "own" a colour as Cadbury found to their dismay last year.
You can own a logo and it's associated colour pattern and the manner in which those combined aspects are portrayed within a specific market (think: Shell or MacDonalds for that matter) but not the colour itself.
You can patent a unique method of colour creation and/or application but not the final colour itself.
How do you identify that colour for a start - it's nowhere near as easy as you think.
If you've ever looked into the complex world of colour chemistry and the assessment of colour, you will quickly understand why plunging into "ownership" is only attempted by the ignorant.
Explore the colour profiles of your printer and monitor with your digital camera for a start! Colour assessment goes way beyond RGB and CMYK difficulties.

And there is the insurmountable problem of the rich variety of colours that exist in the natural world - either in stable or transient forms - which nobody can "own".

Amusing aside:
"Yellow Cabs" in Queensland are orange.
Triton is not the only tool company to use orange.
Catepillar are not the only makers of yellow and black machinery
- just stop and think of the OHS implications of "owning" yellow in an industrial setting. Insurance companies would love that I'm sure!

For those of us with some form of colour blindness (mildish blue/green and red/green in my case) - good luck on 'spotting' your tools by colour.

Cheers!

I fully agree with those sentiments, as I said in my post above, Triton "pinched" Telecom Gold for their work centre, so how can they "own" it. If anybody would "own" that colour, it would be Telstra, the successor to Telecom.

As I said, we regularly made corporate colours, eg Caterpillar Yellow (do they "own" Black as well?) for either complete re-sprays or touch-ups and the like. We had formulas for most of the major corporate colours, one of our big markets was signwriters and the like.

Most of these corporate colours start out as either Australian Standard, British Standar, RAL (German) and so on. Increasingly they are initially Pantone (printing ink) colours selected by the original designer of the artwork. Matching Pantone colurs, which rely on the white of the printing paper shining through to a greater or lesser extent, in opaque paint colours is any paint chemists' nightmare. Finding light fast pigments to match printing ink dyes or pigments is an even harder task.

Go onto a paint website like Dulux or go to a professional painting shop.
They can probably mix it up if you show them an example.
If you want to do an alright job just spray it on or of you wan't to look like new go to one of those powdercoating places they should be able to do it.
Hope this helped

Sorry to hi-jack your thread

but just out of interests sake, how much would it cost to powdercoat something about as big as the triton workbench top..... from any normal powdercoating place..

There are a lot of those free quote things on powdercaoters websites so just do that.
There are also a couple of places that can let you hire equipment and hire the whole system if you really wanted to have a go.
here is a link http://www.powdercoaters.com.au/equipment.htm
I have done a bit of researching and found there are diy kits to do powdercoating http://www.powdercoaters.com.au/equipment.htm
Happy woodworking

Originally Posted by Sturdee

In Vic all taxis are yellow not just the yellow cabs, one of Jeff Kennets innovations.


Peter.

They are actually "Victorian Taxi Yellow." There is also a "Victorian Taxi Green" for eth chequered band, and the roof of the peak service taxis.

It is probably more a matter of Triton and the paint company getting together to prevent the use of eth clour through their computer, and less of having it copyrighted.

If Triton (or Hills, or GMC) wanted to keep their colour such a deep, dark secret why would they provide the "recipie" for it on their web site?

Ian

Originally Posted by Ian Smith

If Triton (or Hills, or GMC) wanted to keep their colour such a deep, dark secret why would they provide the "recipie" for it on their web site?

Ian

Caus maybe they want us to take the tool to a "qualified repairer" or to pay for the expensive " Approved" touch up paint.
I have a few old tools that could do with a bit of touch up paint but i can't find the colour or the one to match.

Cub,
You've missed the point - Triton have the formula on their web site - anyone can mix the colour.

Ian

As far as I can tell, it's not possible to copyright a shade of colour. After all, Ma Nature has already placed all of them in the Public Domain. Somewhere in the world, there will be a beetle or a flower or...

The specific chemical makeup for a particular pain, sure. eg. "Massey Fergusson Yellow." Or paints with thermal characteristics or... whatever. Something specific, over and beyond the shade of colour, anyway.

But if you were to take a swathe of Triton Orange, label it as, say... "Parisian Sunset" and take it into a shop, then copyright is irrelevant.

(Unless some company has a copyright on the name "Parisian Sunset," of course. )