Thread: New Triton tools

Originally Posted by Groggy

There it goes again, every time I read about this jigsaw I begin to take it seriously and think it has good features, until I read the laser bit - then the bubble bursts.

Someone please give me some sort of excuse for putting a laser on a jigsaw so I can get over this.

The reason for the laser on the jigsaw is simple.

They sell more that way.

Most purchasers want lasers. (Based on comparisons of sales figures of tools with compared to tools without lasers)

Economically, even if adding a laser increases the marginal cost of production per unit, the total overhead for production is able to be spread over a much larger sales base, lowering the retail price for you.

If you want the best tool there is, it comes at a premium. If you want a tool that is good and reasonably priced, expect it to have more features than it needs so it will sell.

A commodore does not need a stereo to go fast. They sell better with stereos though.......Hmmmmm Stereo equipped router wireless laser guided ear protection. Gotta go check patents.

Steve

Originally Posted by Groggy

There it goes again, every time I read about this jigsaw I begin to take it seriously and think it has good features, until I read the laser bit - then the bubble bursts.

Someone please give me some sort of excuse for putting a laser on a jigsaw so I can get over this.

Continuing on from the 3D router template thread- if I get to carry through with this, and there are straight lines to cut as part of the template, then I can see the laser may actually be quite a useful addition.

Consider this - following a line with a point- it is very easy to start wandering off track a ways before realising you are no longer cutting straight. If you are following a line with a ruler then even a tiny deviation is bloody obvious well before it actually makes a difference at the cutting point. result - a much straighter cut. I was a bit sceptical as well until I started thinking this through.

I must say that I am finding the laser on my SMCS very useful. Not necessarily more accurate (anyone can be as accurate by taking it slowly and double checking before cutting), but a lot faster set the wood ready for the next cut. (No longer needing to bend down and sight along the line and along the blade to ensure they are inline.) It does actually make it easier.

Originally Posted by doug the slug

i agree groggy, specially when its mounted under teh table in the triton jigsaw kit, you dont need the laser or led, removable handle, scrolling facility and the vacuum/blower facility at the blade is of dubious benefit below the table too

As much as it would be good below the table, this is one of those times where I'd own 2 jigsaws. A cheap one for below-table use, permenantly mounted in the jigsaw table, and a second (Triton) for handheld use.

The same arguement could be applied to the Triton saw - why mount such a versatile beast below the table, when all its built-in fine height adjustment, tilting capability etc are unable to be used. The only reason mine is there is because of the size of the blade and the power (and the quality of the bearings etc to prevent arbor float). (Now the new Triton saw is out, I can have both, and have the lighter one for handheld use....)

Hmm - so far have managed to justify 2 new purchases! (Now where is that credit card)

See Triton/GMC - if these things were actually in the shops rather than having to order them in, you could already be making sales. I, along with a number of others are not prepared to walk the minefield of modern customer service- we have been burnt too many times by too many places to trust it anymore.

At least one retailer I know got REALLY P####d off with Hills/Triton, to the extent he refuses to stock Triton anymore, but will special order it in. GMC really need to get some people out there 'pressing the flesh' & getting the local stores back on side.

Bunnies may be a mega-corp & sell big $$$ of gear, but they only stock a fraction of the Triton range & have funny policies about what some stores can carry - my local Bunnies can't even special order in most of the advertised specials, they have been told by 'head office' to send customers to 2 other, larger stores - unfortunately they are a considerable drive away & one of those stores in turn has told me to go to another store even further away.

For me, the independant store is the most convenient by a long shot.

Have just received 4 more samples of new orange products.

Yet to fire them up, but have unpacked them and assembled where required. No manuals, so want to check before hitting the switch.

As a woodworker, I would be happy with any of them.

Some of the new products are getting bigger and heavier. Not a problem for a workshop environment, bit difficult to take out and put away.

Dust extraction systems look good.

Nice colour.

There. Howz that for saying nothing.

Steve

Seen all the new stuff at Bunnies in Bendigo this morning
Looks and feel good, and nice prices too
Jijsaw was not $199.95, but $168
Random Orbital Sander about $86
All the other stuff was a lot cheaper too, but didn't write them down.

But they are still not available in Melbourne Bunnings stores. At least I found that $168 for the jigsaw is the Bunnies price (from the Frankston store), so that is a good sign.

Now we just have to wait till the Bunnies head office finally decides to release them (they are in their warehouse apparently). Interestingly, the Bunnies I spoke to said only the sander and jigsaw will be available initially.

G'day all,

Does anyone know what the warranty on the new Triton products is? 12 months return to Bunnings (yeah right) or the GMC type warranty?

Would like the new Jig Saw, but having been burnt once with the Triton warranty, very apprehensive about visiting Triton (read GMC) again.

Any informed comment?

Regards,

HarryM

Originally Posted by ClintO

Just received the latest Triton Times and it would seem to me that either they have found a lot of money for development since the takeover or they have started to paint GMC tools orange.
Is this a way to improve the perception of GMC tools or to reduce the perception of Triton ones?

maybe we are seeing a company that is in the business of developing powertools rather than clothes lines by taking the brand forward and not backward. Looking closer at the tools and the direction GMC are taking triton, it certainly wouldn't be in their best interest to simply re-paint blue tools orange now would it?

Originally Posted by HarryM

G'day all,

Does anyone know what the warranty on the new Triton products is? 12 months return to Bunnings (yeah right) or the GMC type warranty?

Would like the new Jig Saw, but having been burnt once with the Triton warranty, very apprehensive about visiting Triton (read GMC) again.

Any informed comment?

Regards,

HarryM

The warranty for all Triton Powertools remains at this time 12 month repair back to the service agents. But watch this space as I am sure this will change sooner or later?

Originally Posted by [B

ClintO[/B]] Just received the latest Triton Times and it would seem to me that either they have found a lot of money for development since the takeover or they have started to paint GMC tools orange.
Is this a way to improve the perception of GMC tools or to reduce the perception of Triton ones?

Actually, it represents that there was a lot of R&D happening in the background of Triton, without support from the parent company for it to proceed. Here, we now have a new parent company prepared to let a lot of development proceed to market quickly, and the previous research done by the Triton engineers is quickly coming to fruition.

If that happens to improve the perception of GMC tools, then so be it- good marketing ploy by GMC. Of course, having dickheads in some major retail outlets telling the public that the new tools coming out of Triton are just rebadged GMC tools helps noone. Pity the so-called 'experts' in retail outlets are so prepared to lie (by making up ####) when they don't know an answer is so prevelent.

Originally Posted by HarryM

G'day all,

Does anyone know what the warranty on the new Triton products is? 12 months return to Bunnings (yeah right) or the GMC type warranty?

Would like the new Jig Saw, but having been burnt once with the Triton warranty, very apprehensive about visiting Triton (read GMC) again.

Any informed comment?

Regards,

HarryM

What warranty burning did you have Harry? Was the problem fixed and if so, how is it now and how long ago was this?

Had a look at the new Jigsaw at Carbatec WA today. Seems a little lightweight compared to my Bosch "Precision Tool" jogsaw. Although at the price of $190 it seems to be OK.
Regards
Les

I was just comparing the data sheets for the new router between the US specs and the australian specs (www.tritonwoodworking.com vs www.triton.com.au).

It was interesting to learn that while the template guide and winder handle (for above-table height adjustment) are standard accessories in the US, they are listed as optional accessories (i.e. pay extra) in Aust. Given the above-table adjustment is meant to be a big selling point, it is a bit annoying you can't use it out of the box! And how long will it take to source if your local bunnies happens not to sell the winder kit!?

Also interesting is that the US data sheet is branded with GMC, whilst the Australian one isn't. If fact, I can't see a mention of GMC anywhere on their Aust. website.