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    Hi I just got 2nd hand triton wc 2000. I have an issue where the table top rocks slightly, if I push on the left side the right side lifts slighty and visa versa. There is no lateral movement though. Can anyone tell me how to solve this? Also can someone tell me whats special about the triton dust bag, would a bin bag not do the same job? Sorry if these questions have been answered somewhere else I did look but couldn't find anything.

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    To answer your question regarding the table top movement, mine does it as well, so does my brother's one, so did my MK3 one, although not as much.

    If care is taken, then you will consistently get good cuts within a +- 0.5mm accuracy, we both do, as do others I know.

    One thing to be aware of, if you have the wind-up kit attached, don't overwind the saw blade too high. What happens is the table on the motor side of the saw, will rise slightly, took me a while to figure that one out.

    With regard to the bag, it's certainly better than a plastic garbage bag. Why, it has a ventilation hole for the saw motor, really a good way to keep the saw working and clear of saw dust.

    I recently found out that if you google search for triton questions or answers, then there is a very high chance of finding your answer on this forum. If you search on the forum the same way, a great amount of the time your search results will be very low or fruitless.

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    If the top rocks it is likely to be due to one of two reasons.
    1. the locking tabs in the top are not pushed out far enough into the end frames. There should be no red showing.
    2. The bar underneath the top is not sitting correctly in the red plastic socket attached to the saw chassis.. As the previous member said, this may be because you have the height winder up too high before you lower the top, or it may be because the saw chassis and the attached red plastic socket is not in the corrent place for docking. You will need to look under the top as you slowly lower it to see if this is the case.

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    Re the Triton dust bag.
    It fully encloses the saw, thereby forcing the heavier sawdust to fall into the bag and not escape into the air. A plastic bag couldn't do that without risking blocking the saw vent. The weight of sawdust would also be too much for a plastic bag.

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    thanks for the replies I have checked and the tabs are locked correct and the red socket is locked in correctly. I have only just added the height winder so I know it isn't that but will make sure I wind it too high. So do you think the dust bag is worth the money because over here it is about £35? It says on amazon that when used with a vacuum in the gaurd it will collect 100% of dust which seems too good to be true.

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    Yeah I noticed that when searching most things woodwork this forum is nearly always at the top of the results.

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    Personally I never got on with the dust bag - catches 100% of dust that enter it I imagine - but not 100% of dust. I found it fiddly and messy to empty and then accidental ripped it (a design flaw with me rather than the bag to be fair).

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    I was never particularly happy with the dust bag either...

    ...but with some minor mods it works extremely well. For me, anyway.

    I left the upper section in place (the cloth 'funnel' that mounts under the table) but replaced the lower bag with an old, lidded bucket.

    In between the two I fitted a T-piece that I could connect a 4" DC line to... and drilled a shitload of holes in t'other side of the T-piece. So larger pieces would fall straight thru the T to collect in the bucket while lighter dust and shavings would be picked up by the air-flow between the holes and duct, sucked off to dust-bunny's heaven.

    Still have to give the upper bag the occasional whack or three to loosen any build up but - as I said earlier - it works well for me.
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    <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> Without knowing your saw situation, as in used outside or inside, I would suggest the bag does work very well, although not 100%.

    I first noticed the bag and what it could do quite some years ago when I visited the Triton club. They had some work going on in a practical classroom (adult education centre) and when the sawing was finished, all I noted was some very minor sawdust on the floor. What was even better was the lack of saw dust in the air, compared to my own Triton at home without the bag or bucket.

    Combined with the Triton dust bucket and a simple home vacuum cleaner, this OEM equipment is quite reasonable in cost and quite effective at doing what it is supposed to do, which is keep saw dust off walls, shelves, tools and out of your lungs.

    Yep, one can modify and enhance the dust bag/chute arrangement, but as a standard and relatively cheap addition, it is money well spent.

    If you are going to cut through MDF, chip board or other fine fibre materials that have a habit of creating fine dust that isn’t good for your health, then the dust bag and Triton bucket sucking from the blade guard, is really a no brainer.

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    I concur. I used to use my workcentre in the garden. When I moved into my workshop the amount of sawdust became much more noticeable. Much too dangerous to have that amount of sawdust inside. If you are 'nt going to get a dust collector, you should use a good quality respirator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    I was never particularly happy with the dust bag either...

    ...but with some minor mods it works extremely well. For me, anyway.
    What Skew said....

    I have never liked it "as purchased" either, but I can understand why it is as it is. I think that the bag is the absolute best way to collect the dust on a wc2000 without having a dust extractor. Obviously a bag is a passive collector, whereas as soon as you add suction you get an active collector, and you get the airborne dust as well as what falls by gravity. In its heyday triton was championing affordability for the average weekender so they didnt want to have to say go out and spend your triton budget on a 2hp dusty, did they? and look at what it does to the mobility. you can put your wc2000 in the back of the ute and take it to mums to fix the door but you cant take the dusty. the dust bag would fit though.

    Long ago, I abandoned the bag on the bottom of the dust collector in favour of an MDF funnel with a top diameter to just sit inside of the big metal ring in the top part of the dust collector and a 4" collection hose in the bottom. I think it was Stu of Stu's Shed fame who did it first, and posted it on this forum. but the bag is put back on if I am away from the dusty and it is better than nothing by a long way.

    And like Chrism3, I also use the wc2000 outside without dust collection. I do this at the start of a project when I arrive home with a trailer load of timber/sheetgoods to start a project. I just use a mask to protect my lungs and the mess just blows away.

    The bag is messy to put on and off and one of my next projects is going to be to replace the top part of the bag with an mdf or plywood box to fit under the table and connect to the dusty. Theres a lot of thinking to do to make what I am trying to achieve with this including ensuring a clean air flow to the saw motor.

    I guess what I am trying to say is that the bag, as ppurchased fits in with tritons aims but a lot of uslike to improve on things and if we have a dusty, thats not difficult on that particular piece of triton equipment

    Doug

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    Doug,
    others have done brilliant jobs of enclosing the saw compartment with a box/extractor arrangement - save some brain cells and do a search.
    Chris

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    I will be using the saw inside mostly and I have noticed alot of saw dust under the table. It seems worth getting so I think I'm going to get it. Thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkus88 View Post
    I will be using the saw inside mostly and I have noticed alot of saw dust under the table. It seems worth getting so I think I'm going to get it. Thanks for the advice.
    I'm fairly confident that, although there'll be days that you grumble about the expense, in the long term you won't have any regrets that you bought it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrism3 View Post
    Doug,
    others have done brilliant jobs of enclosing the saw compartment with a box/extractor arrangement - save some brain cells and do a search.
    Chris
    One of the down-sides of boxing in the saw is increased weight. Which rather defeats one of the Triton's main advantages: portability.

    Using the bag (modified or not) instead makes it a helluva lot easier to throw the beasty into the back of a ute or under a bench for storage without partial disassembly.

    Of course, if your main interest is purely in an 'inexpensive' TS that will be more or less permanently set up, well... then this isn't such a down-side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    In its heyday triton was championing affordability for the average weekender so they didnt want to have to say go out and spend your triton budget on a 2hp dusty, did they?

    Doug
    The original dust bag from triton was actually a full kit including the bucket and hoses. The funnel was actually a nylon material and came down to a narrow funnel with a standard hose fitting, add this to the hose for the guard and now that is the reason why there are 2 hose inlets on the bucket.

    Only used the hose on the funnel for a short time, reduced the suction too much I now just hang a bucket under it to catch as it falls through, and a little shake of eth funnel when i finish to get the rest.

    Not great but saves a lot of mess

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