Thread: USA style router collet for Triton

Ok, so I have had a chance to cool down

I can probably glue the female plastic thread, so hopefully that can be resolved. I can get the router working once, and the speed controller also works.

But as soon as a shut it down, I cannot start it again until I remove the brushes and reinsert them, and even then it does not always work.

Is there something about the insertion of the brushes I am doing wrong? Can they be inserted incorrectly? I just inserted them back in in the orientation by which I understood they came out.

If I had accidentally swapped the brushes would that make a difference? Does anyone know what I should do now to try and bring my triton bowling ball back to life?

Sorry for the swearing, I had just come in from nearly hurling the router across the shed after I broke the thread!

Thanks
Jason

When the router starts, is it rotating the correct way (clockwise when viewed from above, router upright - there's an arrow on the base as a double-check), as it sounds like you may have somehow reversed the polarity?

Ray

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

When the router starts, is it rotating the correct way (clockwise when viewed from above, router upright - there's an arrow on the base as a double-check), as it sounds like you may have somehow reversed the polarity?

Ray

The polarity cannot be reversed on single phase, so that is out. Take the whole thing apart again, redo the job and put it back together, that would be my suggestion. You did not hold it in a vice while doing this did you? When it stops or is unable to start is there any buzzing like the power is still flowing but the motor is not moving? I think I will sell mine and buy another one after all this. One unused router for sale, never been plugged in. The trouble is their is BA variety on the market in Oz.

In addition to my original question, if the rotation is correct and you have not removed/replaced any wires from the variable speed unit, once the router has stopped, does it restart if you manually turn the shaft (with the power OFF) through 75-90 degrees? If it does, then it sounds like the field wiring is damaged - usually caused by a stall. Simply replacing the brushes in the other slot, or up the other way would not ordinarily - in itself - cause a failure to start. The "correct" orientation is to return the brushes to the profile they have thus far developed in use, but they would soon re-profile themselves again.

Ray

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

In addition to my original question, if the rotation is correct and you have not removed/replaced any wires from the variable speed unit, once the router has stopped, does it restart if you manually turn the shaft (with the power OFF) through 75-90 degrees? If it does, then it sounds like the field wiring is damaged - usually caused by a stall. Simply replacing the brushes in the other slot, or up the other way would not ordinarily - in itself - cause a failure to start. The "correct" orientation is to return the brushes to the profile they have thus far developed in use, but they would soon re-profile themselves again.

Ray

Hi,

The router has had probably 10 minutes of use total! I have had it for a year in a box. Last week I used a 1/2" roundover bit to do some practice on a piece of MDF. Thats all its been used for before I replaced the collet!

I did not put in a vice, did not touch any of the wiring. All I did was:

1. Remove brushes
2. Use a piece of string to spin the router collet and hit the lock button and repeat 3 times to get the collet all the way off.
3. Attach new collet, reverse for 2.

That's it!

However there is one peculiarity that I just remembered. After step 1 the first time, I could not get the collet to spin freely. So I actually reinstalled the brushes, powered up the router (sounded fine) and then started again, this time the collet did spin freely.

Just about to give it another look. RouterChuck from ebay emailed me he might have a brush holder to sell, but I actually think a bit of superglue will do the job.

Will take a look at the other suggestions today and reply back.

Thanks
Jason

Originally Posted by rayintheuk

if you manually turn the shaft (with the power OFF) through 75-90 degrees?

No - and now even after I repaired the crack in the thread of the brush cover the router will not even start now. I suspect I have a dud, or somehow fried the motor. I will take it to a repair shop. If too expensive to fix, I will onsell the dead router for parts and also sell the USA collet and a template adaptor. I also have a phenolic insert from wood peckers especially for the triton I will need to dump as well. Will probably buy a variable speed Makita at that point, as I had no plans to use panel raising bits, just wanted to do some edge work and dados, grooves, rabets, etc. I already have a single speed Maktec for hand use.

Since I have only used this router for 10 minutes before I changed the collet, its possible I have exposed a pre-existing weakness that I would have discovered later on anyway.

I will advise if I find any more info. If anyone else has any other ideas? I hope the repair shop might be able to do something without requiring new parts.

Jason, I can understand your disappointment and frustration seeing that the router saw so little use. For this to happen after installing a much better collet is disappointing to say the least. After I installed the collet to my TRA001, the speed control was no longer working. Fortunately, Routerchucks had one to sell to me and now all is OK again. I switched on before putting the brushes back. Not sure if this caused the speed controller to fail. A few other members have changed the chuck/collet without any problems. I have also changed it for my MOF001 smaller router and had no problems. Hope you can get it fixed as it is a great table router. I have made a fair few raised panel doors with my Triton setup.
regards
Les

Would pulling the string too quickly have done something bad, either when removing old collet or putting new one on? Or pulling the string more than 3 goes? I had a couple of mistarts?

Leave it to an expert, you can buy mine if it is dead never been plugged in.

Can anyone recommend a good repairer close to geelong. I would prefer to get it checked out locally if possible, even if the outcome is that it requires parts which are no longer available.

Werribee Tool Hire near the railway station (opposite the Hospital) may do it. Another place for good repairs is DBF tools but I don't think they do Triton, however the tech there used to be one of the better ones.

This sounds like me. I wonder if the collet change is completely unrelated?

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f13/tr...errated-65584/

Speed unit, how to bypass?

I have a brush retaining cap you can have if you get it going. Drop me your mailing address via PM if you'd like it.

Ray.

Hi Ray,

Thanks for the offer, but the cap is ok, its the holder itself that's the issue. I bought one already from Routerchuck. Will see about getting it installed by a repairer, its a bit too much for me, although if I can't find anyone willing to take it apart, I might hunt up your website which details taking it apart and try to do it myself.

Cheers
Jason