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    Default Workcentre 2000, newb, backyard projects?

    Hi all,

    Just contemplating buying a workcentre 2000 but am wavering cost versus value, like as a sometimes woodworker, will I get the value out it?

    My projects in the pipeline include
    Coffee table

    Desk for study

    Outdoor chair/pew

    So theres not a real lot of volume there.

    My only real project thus far was a TV cabinet, that went well, with the exception I found it very very hard to cut square to the mm using power saws. I joined pine boards together with biscuit joins, (sort of) then cut to length etc. Then finished with laquer, etc and it looks good. Just dont get too close. Lots of stuff out of true, not quite exact. Is there a simpler way to make a jig for ensuring accurate cutting with a circular saw, jigs for routing etc or to hell with it, go with the workcentre 2k? Your thoughts most appreciated.

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    If you do a search in these forums you'll find all the info. This has been debated regularly and you'll get advice saying that you should buy a Triton, advice saying you should spend a bit more and buy a dedicated Table saw like the TSC-10HB. (do a search using TSC-10HB and see what you get)

    The Triton is a good start although many of us in here have since upgraded. I would always recommend getting a good second hand Triton on ebay , give it a try, if you want to sell it again you'll find that you get most of the money back again, if not even maybe make a few bucks, depending on how well you bought the stuff.

    Have a look back through recent threads in this triton section of the forums as well.

    like this: http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=20236
    If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.

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    Thanks Gumby for the reply, will chase up links etc..

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    XtremnewB I must warn you if you put two of the orange things in your workshop/garage they multiply. I started out as you are, wondering if it was worth it. Bought the WC +saw but that has now grown to router +stand , superjaws, multistand, maxi extension table & bevel ripping guide.
    You find the money
    Be warned

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBurgess
    XtremnewB I must warn you if you put two of the orange things in your workshop/garage they multiply.
    Yes they multiply, but then again so does the list of projects you want to do. I bought mine in january and added other orange bits almost every month since.
    ive spent over $2500 on orange tools (triton and CMT) in 7 months and a heap more on materials but i calculate that the triton has probably paid for itself nearly twice in what ive done with it. i could have done it all without it (i built a houseful of furniture before i owned a triton) but i would much rather be with it.

    ALso, Gumby mentioned upgrading from a triton to a tablesaw. Great idea if you want to be confined to a concrete floored workshop/garage. i love being able to set teh triton up wherever i want to use it, put it in the back of the car and take it to do work outside the workshop etc.

    as Gumby says buy a second hand one on ebay and try it out if you must, plenty available from people upgrading to tablesaws, poor misguided fools

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    Doug, who's boobies are those?

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    Dear XtremenewB,

    Triton is designed with you in mind.

    Cost vs performance is good.
    It is compact enough that it doesn't dominate your workshop when you are not using it.
    You can get a high degree of accuracy out of it, providing you take the time to read the instructions and if in doube ask for advice.
    It is quite versatile, and so can be used in lieu of a whole range of other products.
    Spares and serivce are pretty good in every country it is sold in.
    Can be added to with a plethora of optional accessories to allow the system to grow as your ability increases.
    It is very safe, part by design and part by the usage manuals that warn you of what not to do.
    Has a training DVD that will save you years of trial and error.

    The down side is;
    Being made of pressed steel, not cast, the table top is not perfectly flat.
    It can be frustrating trying to align the saw blade. For some reason most users can do this within half an hour, yet others never seem to get it right.
    You will find that you often need to buy accessories to do what you need to. This point however I put down to the accelerated pace your ability grows at, that enables you to go up a level in technique.

    If you were about to open a cabinet making shop, you would look past Triton, and need a much larger budget.

    For the projects you have in mind, Tirton would be ideal.

    You will most likely make many more projects than those listed, as they become easier and your possibilities increase.

    Must admit, I was diagnosed with Tritonitis at an early age. Some people like Gumby seem to have found a cure, or have grown out of it. I feel at times that my case is terminal.

    Whatever tool you choose, welcom to the world of working with wood, where you can convert ideas into reality, make a piece that can last generations and BBQ fine food on the pieces that don't.

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    Thank you all for your wonderful replies. Yes, Triton has my attention, got my interest, fuelled my desire, now I fear action will follow. I have run past my wife who expressed the normal reaction to "here we go again, more toys...". The best way to think about it, is indeed the money saved by using it. I figure the cost will be amortised over about 4 projects in terms of time saved, material saved etc. Plus I do love doing stuff around the house after being in an office environment all week!

    I have two GMC circular saws that I bought from Bunnies over time, dont know what their exact size is, cept one is big, one is small (thats the 38 buck one that bunnings get in periodically) plus an Ozito 50 buck router, with all attachments that are OK quality. I know that these would be regarded as "low end" by some of the people here but its what I have-can these be utilised by the Triton relatively hassle free?

    By the way, who do those boobs belong to???

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremeNewb
    Thank you all for your wonderful replies. Yes, Triton has my attention, got my interest, fuelled my desire, now I fear action will follow. I have run past my wife who expressed the normal reaction to "here we go again, more toys...". The best way to think about it, is indeed the money saved by using it. I figure the cost will be amortised over about 4 projects in terms of time saved, material saved etc. Plus I do love doing stuff around the house after being in an office environment all week!

    I have two GMC circular saws that I bought from Bunnies over time, dont know what their exact size is, cept one is big, one is small (thats the 38 buck one that bunnings get in periodically) plus an Ozito 50 buck router, with all attachments that are OK quality. I know that these would be regarded as "low end" by some of the people here but its what I have-can these be utilised by the Triton relatively hassle free?

    By the way, who do those boobs belong to???

    Cheers
    Go to a DEMO, there are heaps in Sydney and I'm sure there would be one near to you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremeNewb
    I have two GMC circular saws that I bought from Bunnies over time, dont know what their exact size is, cept one is big, one is small (thats the 38 buck one that bunnings get in periodically) plus an Ozito 50 buck router, with all attachments that are OK quality. I know that these would be regarded as "low end" by some of the people here but its what I have-can these be utilised by the Triton relatively hassle free?

    By the way, who do those boobs belong to???

    Cheers
    Shouldn't be a problem- definitely mount the bigger saw in the table (you want as much height as possible). Be very aware of any saw slump, which will affect accuracy of your cuts. There is a Triton saw bracket that can help. If you have much play in the shaft, again, expect this to compromise accuracy. The height winder is also a must have- you don't want to have to rely on any height adjustment capacity the saw has - circular saws inherently do not have a highly stable method of achieving changes in height.

    Don't knock that $38 small saw, I love mine! It's cheap, it's nasty, it isn't accurate, but who cares! It is light, portable, and I use my continually to cut large 1200 x 2400 sheets down to near final dimension before using the table saw. Saves the workbench from having a large sheet dropped on it, saves my back, and overall greatly improves my workshop safety. I have done full sized sheets on the workcentre (the maxi table is a must btw), and it is a bastard. Particularly 19mm MDF.

    No idea about the router, but in general, the mounting system copes with a wide range of routers, so should be fine.

    As to the boobs..... honest, they are not mine.
    "Clear, Ease Springs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeg20boat
    Doug, who's boobies are those?

    Quote Originally Posted by XtremeNewb
    By the way, who do those boobs belong to???
    Well, that would be telling some secrets wouldnt it???

    Lets just say that its my avatar so that makes them my boobies

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    Make sure you get the height winder kit. Impossible to live without one! I would also suggest that you seriously think about the triton saw - it is expensive, but fitting it is so much easier - I could never get my little makita striaght.

    I started just like you did - the triton is a great way to go. If you want to upgrade later, then you can sell it for a good price.

    You can't go wrong.

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    Triton saw bracket? Height winder-I take it these are optional extras-whats the ball park price for these?



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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremeNewb
    Triton saw bracket? Height winder-I take it these are optional extras-whats the ball park price for these?
    Thanks
    check the Triton Site and you'll see them. They are both optional extras.

    The height winder is the best addition you'll buy. It means you can wind the blade up and down without removing the dust bag all the time.

    The stabilizer bracket holds the saw firm to stop it slumping (or tilting) slightly on it's base.

    The stabilizer is around $35 and the height winder about $50 I think.
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    Height winder is a must, stabilizer only if needed.
    "Clear, Ease Springs"
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