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    Ian, I will try to explain. Sort off as you said it, but straight on the actual piece.


    I thought best is to sketch it up and go through the steps I took here:

    Side Rebate Plane Bed Layout.jpg

    1. I cut a wood blank to the complete size of the plane. Means complete height and length. The bottom is then trimmed later so the brass skate is exposed.


    2. Marked the location of the mouth (A) = 25mm from the toe.


    3. I cut the brass to the length of the plane, but minus the toe. Means from the mouth (A) to the end of the heel.


    4. Stuck them together with double sided tape so the bottom edges and the mouth location lined up


    5. Marked a line from (A) to (B) by using and angle of 30 degrees across the face of the blank


    6. Marked a parallel line from (C) to (D) using the width of the blade

    7. Marked a length of 4.55 times the combined thickness of wood and brass from (A) along the line to get point (G). A ratio of 4.55:1 will result in a 12 degree bed angle later. I had established that separately on a piece of paper. Although one can also calculate that, but I guess this is accurate enough. Actually it is more accurate than I can measure and work towards In my case the combined thickness was 14mm. So I measured 64mm between (A) and (G).


    8. Transferred (A) across the plane bottom to get (A*) and squared (G) to the edge down.


    8. Then connected (A*) to (F) and finding point E as the point where the line crosses from brass to wood


    9. Transferred (E) over to the blank face to get point (K) to (L). (G-H) is now the line where the blade end exits the plane body later and (K-L) is the line where later the wooden bed transitions into the brass bed. But you can also measure that from (A) using the same ratio of 4.55 times thickness of the brass. Works either way.

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    My layout lines got a bit messy and I then marked the final lines with a knife and created knife walls before cutting.


    10. Cut out the notch/waste.

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    11. Then I separated the brass and the wood again and made two saw cuts from the underside of the wood blank at point (A) to point (G) on the face. The second cut then from the underside at point (M) to the face at point (H). Now both these cuts go in a 12 degree angle from the underside to the face in the right depth


    From there on it was just a matter of chiseling out the waste of the bed and refine it with a small shoulder plane. To test it in between I placed the blank on a flat piece of wood and slide the blade down the bed and see if it digs into the flat surface more or less evenly.

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    After that I stuck it again together with the brass. Transferred the bed to the back and decided where to put the screws. I could have already done that when I had the parts stuck together before. But well it worked this way too. Then drilled the holes and screw the parts temporarily together to file the bed also in the brass using the bed in the wood as guide for hack saw and files.


    Finally I trimmed the wood back along the dashed line through point (K) and chiseled out the area where the lever cap will go.

    20200611_165419.jpg


    I will see how it works on the second plane. If I do not manage to get exact the same blank thickness of the wood I will have to adjust a little as the point where the end of the blade exits the wood would move with this method. I will probably just use the same distance (A) to (G), which might change slightly the angle of the bed, but when you put the planes next to each other that will not really be visible. At least less so as if the blade exits at a different spot.

    Hope that all makes sense. Cheers

    (Sorry, I had to edit the post a few times as it seems I could not remember correctly first how I did it. Good I recapt it now and can use it further )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cklett View Post
    .....(Sorry, I had to edit the post a few times as it seems I could not remember correctly first how I did it. Good I recapt it now and can use it further )
    I understand very well! There have been a few times I've gone to repeat something I've done years ago, & can't remember how I did it the first time. I have always kept a notebook in the shed, in which I jot down sketch plans & note dimensions, etc., as I work on projects. The plans themselves are nearly always a 'work in progress' and I often change things, alter initial dimensions & so forth, but forget to alter my notes because I'm too busy concentrating on the job. So when I go back years later, as I've done several times, I find some of the crucial information I need isn't there......

    Yes, we took similar approaches on the plane, but I will use a template rather than rely on my trigonometry skills.....

    Cheers,
    IW

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    Hi,

    finally finished the set.

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    Both of them work quite well and I am very happy with them. They did not turn out as exact mirror images from each other, but that's ok. They are handmade after all. I learned that it is not easy to make two items exactly the same. With some more precise templates maybe. But as said it has no impact on their usefulness and performance.

    In some way I even think the second one turned out a bit better as I had more practise in forming the bed and took more care of getting it even. For that one I left the toe piece off first to fine tune the bed. For that I clamped it to granite tile and placed the blade in the bed. The cutting edge was ground to the right angle, but without it's primary bevel yet. When I pushed it carefully forward I could then check with a feeler gauge when it had even distance to the slab. So that when the plane was finished I only needed to adjust the cutting edge of the blade a little to get an even cutting depth along the cut width.

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    Fine tuning the bed is hard after the toe piece is on. I do not have small enough files for that.

    From this article I also got the idea, that it might be good to be able to change the profile of the depth stops. So I taped two threads into the depth stops and can now screw different wooden profiles underneath. For example to assist in making sliding dovetails, like in that article.

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    I made the depth stops identical enough, so that they can be interchanged between the two planes. Not sure if I need that, but thought it would not harm.

    So there you have it. Two nice little side rebate planes from prototype or mock up to fully working product.

    Thanks for reading and all the good comments and advise.

    I am off now to the next project

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    They look fantastic; well done!
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