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Thread: First attempt at restoring plane
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7th September 2008, 10:34 PM #1New Member
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First attempt at restoring plane
Hi everybody.
I came across this forum while hunting for instructions on how to restore an old hand plane.
Whilst clearing out a cupboard, I found an old plane that used to belong to my grandad. It's a Record No 04½ and it wasn't in too bad condition I guess.
I've got loads of power tools, including a plane, but I always have a disaster with it (just assumed that I was rotten at planing) so I thought I'd have a go with the Record. Couldn't believe that it actually planed the door I was working on - it's been sitting in a plastic bag for about 20 years!!!!
Anyway, I decided that I should give the old guy a bit of a tart up and hunted for some guidance and came across this thread. It's absolutely brilliant and really easy to follow. So a huge thank you from me to Major Panic for doing it.
I've started it but was a bit too wary to try the electrolysis, so I soaked the bits in vinegar (is this the point I hear screams from around the world??).
I'm progressing not too bad but might well be asking some more tips (like where half the bits go!!). I'm also finding some of the bits have blueing on them (at least I think that's what it is - you can see it on the sole in my before pics)
I forgot to take a picture of it as a "before" and only remembered once I'd dismantled it:
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10th September 2008, 08:55 PM #2New Member
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Well, I'm still at it. It takes bloomin ages to lap the sole and sides of the plane. I look like I've been down a coal mine with all the black dust.
I think it's turning out nice though.
Got my honing guide and was all ready to do some blade sharpening then discovered the sharpening stone is too narrow to accommodate the blade (so I did a chisel instead!!!! ) I can't find a stone wide enough though - so can anyone tell me how I get round this please?
I've got a bit that I'm not sure where it came from though.................
And despite vigorous buffing, my metal is getting funny blackish marks on it - dunno if you can see it in this pic. What am I doing wrong?
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10th September 2008, 09:16 PM #3
The little bracket in the top pic is the frog adjusting bracket .guide , it screws onto the bottom of the frog ,a screw with a radial slot in the head fits into it to adjust the frog forward or rear ward.
As far as buffing goes It happens to me as well ,after buffing I just get some 2000 grit wet and dry and polish the steel with that lubed with some turps or kerosine.
Kev"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend ,inside a dog it's too dark to read"
Groucho Marx
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10th September 2008, 09:20 PM #4
Blue
Hi Allison
Welcome to the woodwork forums, they are a great place to learn from others. The blue you mention is an enamel paint that most RECORD brand gear is painted with. I have a number four plane Record brand which I can take some pics of on Friday if this is any help.
The marks you mention may be a light burn mark from being too vigorous with the buffer.
Regards Mike
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22nd September 2008, 01:52 AM #5
All those wee bits left over should go into a box for spares. When you have gathered enough of them you can make another plane.
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22nd September 2008, 04:14 AM #6New Member
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It's OK - I found a home for the spares!! Woodlee was right!
I posted up the completed plane earlier but the post isn't here............ dunno where it's gone.......................
I'll try again.
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22nd September 2008, 04:57 AM #7New Member
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I think I'm finished with it. It's not as perfect as I'd like it to be but I had to try and do my best with the equipment that I've got. I don't have a bench grinder or anything, so it's all had to be with elbow grease and a good bit of hope, wet and dry, steel wool and sweat!!
I had a bit of a problem with the cap iron - there was a space in it and I know it should be a snug fit.
Then I realised that I had the blade on the wrong way round..................
Does it look not too bad though?
And thanks Mike, I did reply to you but it disappeared. I had a problem with a couple of bits being the wrong way round but I think/hope I've got it sorted - shoulda looked at it properly before I dismantled it.
I think I got some of the marks off the metal but it's not as good as I'd have liked. As I said, I had to rely on elbow grease - maybe I don't have enough!!
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22nd September 2008, 07:47 AM #8
Alison,
It is a very good plane rehabbing work! Nice handles
I have a plane like yours. I changed (I had to make some adjustments) the original blade with a thicker one from a wooden plane and now it is a very effective smoother.
[media]http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=pPM9YQ5MP_0[/media]Ciao,
Giuliano
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22nd September 2008, 09:13 AM #9
Beautiful. have a greenie
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22nd September 2008, 01:43 PM #10Senior Member
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Alison,
Looks great. I am also doing up a Record #4 1/2. Would you mind giving me some clues about repainting the red onto the lever cap. Yours looks perfect and I don't want to stuff mine up
regards,
James
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22nd September 2008, 01:50 PM #11
Well done Alison.
I hope you get much pleasure out of using it.
Keivn
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top job of restoration.
I kept looking for the new price tagDon't force it, use a bigger hammer.
Timber is what you use. Wood is what you burn.
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22nd September 2008, 08:31 PM #13New Member
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Thanks everybody. I'll probably be too scared to use it now!!
I got a little tin of red enamel paint that you use on model building (I think it was Humbrol stuff). Then I used a cocktail stick to drip the enamel into the recess. Just kept dripping it and letting it run. Did the same in the spaces and in the R, O and D. I did get a tiny little bit going onto the lettering but once it was thoroughly dry, I used really fine wet and dry just to buff over the top - it took the little bit of enamel off the lettering without damaging the new stuff in the recess.
I used four coats by the way - it could have been the enamel I was using though - it seemed to be quite runny and took an age to dry - first coat I had to leave for nearly two days. It was quicker after that though.
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22nd September 2008, 09:37 PM #14Senior Member
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Thanks Alison, Great work
Regards,
James
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