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29th August 2020, 09:03 PM #31
Sorry to labour this point Derek, but neither is flat. Both pictures show a clear ring around the boss, with a depression between the ring & the boss. I contend these are simply different castings, but both intended to serve the same purpose. The bottoms of all knobs I've seen off later planes are rounded so that they will fit slightly different ring conformations. I think these are both later, ringed bodies, whatever the caption claims.
Compare them with the picture I posted of my old pre-ring-era 5.5. The area around the boss is entirely flat. The 4 or 5 pre-ring planes I've seen have all been like this.
I think there may have been a mistake in the original article & a wrong picture got used. It would hardly be without precedent.
When I was a veterinary student, I was reading an old textbook on horse medicine and not that far into the book, there were a couple of drawings purporting to show two horses with different conditions. I stared at those pictures for fully 10 minutes trying to see the difference, but pixel by pixel (ok, this was well before digital pics, but you know what I mean), they looked identical! It bothered me no end at the time, but years later, I realized someone had probably slipped up and put in a wrong picture.
It may also go a little way to explain why I was never a star in horse medicine.....
Cheers,IW
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29th August 2020, 10:34 PM #32GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks Derek, for your comment. You will see from the pics I posted of my Bedrock 605 that I have the same arrangements as the picture you show on the left, which makes mine a Type 5-7, not Type 8.
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Dengy
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29th August 2020, 10:52 PM #33
The right hand ring is the later type with internally tapered sides; the knob has a matching tapered bottom so as the hold down is tightened the two tapers meet and wedge the knob into the casting. The left hand ring is flat-topped with almost straight internal sides (you never get true verticals in castings; all patterns have a taper on them), but if you look closer you can make out that the central boss is quite proud of the ring. Essentially the knob is a spigot fit onto the boss and seats on the flat ring; as if it was mounted on a round plinth. Any early knob (low mushroom or early high) would fit the LH mount but only the later tapered bottom high knobs will fit on the right.
Unless I’m missing something else here? I have no knowledge of Bedrocks beyond reading Patrick Leach and Bob Kaune; I only possess the normal Bailey planes. I do have examples of all the knob types so I would say that the LH ring has got to be Bedrock specific?Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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29th August 2020, 11:05 PM #34GOLD MEMBER
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Very nicely analysed, Chief, thanks for that. The original knob on my plane sat on the top of the flat topped ring, and IanW did the same for the new ebony knob he made. And you are correct, on mine the central boss is much higher than the flat topped ring. You can see that from the photos of mine that I posted in #20 above
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Dengy
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