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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazm View Post
    I have have a few old Bergs that I would like to clean up. What is the best way to restore them? (The metal not the handle)
    Dazm, if you are going to use them regularly, just clean off any surface rust from the top & sides with medium/fine emery, lap the backs till they're dead flat & polished for about 25mm behind the edge, put a fine edge on them, and enjoy the results.

    You can lap the whole back if you are a masochist & have nothing else to do for a few weeks, but it's really only necessary to do the business ends if you are going to use them for general bench work & dovetailing. And imo, the quickest & most reliable way to flatten backs is with diamond plates, but a couple of decent-sized plates will set you back a couple of hundred, unfortunately. I have a very strong dislike of the abrasive paper stuck to glass or other flat surface method, for flattening. It simply won't & can't produce a properly flat surface - sharp edges, yes, but the backs will be slightly to severely rounded rather than flat. It may not matter in many applications, but it makes a big difference for jobs like paring or making vertical cuts to a scribe line, if those backs are genuinely flat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadh77 View Post
    Here are some of my favorite berg family members. Two 51mm and a 38mm. Older pieces than the 1031 serie from around 1920-1930. The tang's are longer and even better steel. 3rd picture shows the difference.

    Wow, those chisels appear to be in a pristine state, jadh77! I'm guessing they've been cleaned up at least a little, even so, they've been well looked-after. If they are from the 1920s/30s, that makes them over 90. I'm a few years less than that, and I've got many more rust spots & dings than your chisels.......

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    Nice set of chisels there Rob. Are you going to buy them. One of them seems to have an owners initials stamped into it. ??APQ. Cant see it on the others though it could be there. IN the U.S. an equivalent set of six Lie Nielsen's would cost you less than US$350.( And in Australia about 675 oz dollars) Without a box or tool roll. So these look to be just for the collector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattocks View Post
    Nice set of chisels there Rob. Are you going to buy them. One of them seems to have an owners initials stamped into it. ??APQ. Cant see it on the others though it could be there. IN the U.S. an equivalent set of six Lie Nielsen's would cost you less than US$350.( And in Australia about 675 oz dollars) Without a box or tool roll. So these look to be just for the collector.
    Interesting
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    Hi Frank,

    Not me. I have an embarrassment of chisels but my disease hasn't progressed to the state that I must have these, yet. I posted because I'm following the discussion here, as are others, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadh77 View Post
    With these tolls become desirable collector's items and the money involved, I share the concerns of doggie and IanW, but I would also like to try to restore my own tools. I thinks it is fine to both use and collect berg tools and as a woodworker in the Dutch yachting industry I do both. But here are some more members of my berg family I dare not take to work.
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    I have attached photos of my little berg family, less my set of knives. As you can see most are well used and need some tlc. Hence i have gone to the effort to produce the decal. I have one chisel that im currently restoring and will post the results when finished.

    Are you going to tell us how you restore your blades to look new?

    Cheers stew

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
    Bunya, those decals are excellent. My Berg sockets are being re-handled atm but I would love to get some decals to add to the new handles. Let me know if you intend to make them available.

    little chance of passing rosewood handles off as originals - even with fancy decals
    but would look pretty speccy
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    thought you might like to see a couple of these old bergs I have kicking around.

    these wer sold by a Sydney tool merchant T.Aitken

    hard to date exactly but pretty sure they are around c1900 give or take 10years

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    My first attempt at the berg decal restoration..... Note this has to dry for about 8 hours so it will most likely be a bit lighter in colour by then.

    Cheers Stewart

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    Hi Stew,

    If you have any problem with the decals coming off you can make them more secure using this stuff: Micro Sol 1 oz Bottle Decal Setting Solution Stock MI 2 | eBay

    And if you get one placed incorrectly you can remove it with this solution: Micro Set Solution 1oz Bottle Decal Setting Solution Remover Stock MI 1 | eBay


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    Thanks rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunya pine View Post
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    My first attempt at the berg decal restoration..... Note this has to dry for about 8 hours so it will most likely be a bit lighter in colour by then.

    Cheers Stewart

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    The first trial was ok, the colour is too dark and the decal is a tad small.... will be adjusting these in the next trial.

    I will post photos of the updated decal in the next couple of weeks.

    Cheers stewart

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    Something I regretted having done was passing on a set I bought of Pacman some time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    Something I regretted having done was passing on a set I bought of Pacman some time ago.
    It wouldnt take long to put a set back together if you wanted one.... most people reading this would have spares.....

    Team we might to need to organise a Berg "swap meet" if you are interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunya pine View Post
    It wouldnt take long to put a set back together if you wanted one.... most people reading this would have spares.....

    Team we might to need to organise a Berg "swap meet" if you are interested?

    Cheers
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    Stew nice thought but not right now as then other matters taking precedent

    As Paul pointed out to me when he was here my dad's are Toldeado? I'd more than likely stick to the same brand.

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